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Old 22nd Dec 2007, 11:32 PM   #41 (permalink)
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ahhh.. thanx for the info. <censored> firefly

i guess my travelling limited to aeroline, air asia and LRT.
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Old 23rd Dec 2007, 02:34 AM   #42 (permalink)
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Either it is really a different plane or they are doing a major cover-up to mislead readers. First, didn't say about the lost of both engines, then they didn't say it was a flight to Penang (to divert attention to a flight that was non-existent to Kuala Terengganue).
I think it's a cover-up. The timings were just too similar....

I just wrote this to the Star. Let's see if it appears...

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I'm writing in referral to the story about the Firefly plane which returned to Subang after take-off (Plane forced to fly back to Subang).

Unless this is referring to a similar incident affecting a different Firefly plane at the same time, the details in the story are wrong and misleading.

First of all, the flight was not to Kuala Terengganu, but to Penang. The plane also did not suffer from an "irregularity in one of the engine's functions". To put it simply, the plane's left engine failed 20 minutes into the flight.

The pilot attempted to restart the engine for some time. When he failed, he turned the plane around and told the passengers they were going back because they just lost an engine. That was when they lost the SECOND engine but the pilot did not inform the passengers.

The plane had to glide all the way back to Subang without any engine power. When the pilot made it to Subang, he had to land the plane so hard that the tyres burst on impact.

The passengers were then hustled out of the plane and the terminal. They were NOT provided with any snacks or refreshments, as Firefly claimed.

I know this for a fact because my brother was on the flight. An off-duty flight engineer was also onboard. I'm sure Firefly's managing director, Eddy Leong, should have no problem contacting the flight engineer (or the air crew) to get his facts right.

I have written about this very matter to Firefly and received nothing more than an automated response, denying their liability. So, I'm very sure Firefly knows exactly what went wrong. It is appalling that they have attempted to cover up this near disaster in the media.
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Old 23rd Dec 2007, 02:38 AM   #43 (permalink)
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ahhh.. thanx for the info. <censored> firefly

i guess my travelling limited to aeroline, air asia and LRT.
Please spread the word to your friends and relatives. It's amazing what lies they are telling in the newspapers to cover up this near-disaster.
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Old 23rd Dec 2007, 02:47 AM   #44 (permalink)
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Please spread the word to your friends and relatives. It's amazing what lies they are telling in the newspapers to cover up this near-disaster.
sure. mentioned thestar, sun. wat about malay mail or other small time newspapers or mags, they seem to publish unheard of news. else how bout Jeff Ooi.. hehe. then again im sure they want pics or facts gathered from witnesses to back up the experiences by many.
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Old 23rd Dec 2007, 02:49 AM   #45 (permalink)
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sure. mentioned thestar, sun. wat about malay mail or other small time newspapers or mags, they seem to publish unheard of news. else how bout Jeff Ooi.. hehe. then again im sure they want pics or facts gathered from witnesses to back up the experiences by many.
I did inform Jeff but I think he's still recuperating from his eye operation.
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Old 24th Dec 2007, 01:46 PM   #46 (permalink)
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Here's an update....

According to a source I spoke to, that plane was NOT a new plane as Firefly claimed. Not that old planes are not reliable, but they do require stringent maintenance to ensure maximum reliability. Also, as old planes, Firefly cannot claim that the electrical problem is a "teething issue" or something they can blame Fokker for.

Right now, Firefly only has THREE Fokker planes with the registration numbers 9M-MGF, 9M-MGI and 9M-MDG. Their new planes are not due to arrive until July 2008.

So I wonder why Firefly told the passengers that they did not understand why the incident happened because "the plane was new". LIARS.
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Please spread the word to your friends and relatives. It's amazing what lies they are telling in the newspapers to cover up this near-disaster.
they should chg name to firelies w/ tag line, "now everyone can tell lies"
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Old 25th Dec 2007, 01:33 AM   #48 (permalink)
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they should chg name to firelies w/ tag line, "now everyone can tell lies"
LOL! Air Asia may sue them for plagiarism.
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You must be getting your facts wrong ..

There was definitely no ' crash landing ' in subang airport

Firefly does not operate 3 aircraft

Just two fokker 50's ex-MAS , ex-FAX

Did the whole cabin end up in darkness with no aircirculation whatsoever ? because that will be what happens when the aircraft loses all power fgrom the engines in mid air ..

Where did you read that they rec'd NEW aircraft ? Fokker has gone bankrupt for quite some time now ... Once again .. Heaven alone knows where you're getting your facts from

Do you know ANYTHING about these engines ? Do you know about feathering in a prop engine ?

Maybe this is the reason why the guys are Firefly are pretty much ignoring your email's to them , because it makes absolutely no sense to them whatsoever that your brother experienced ' total power loss ' in mid air .

Total power loss would mean that there is no hydraulic power to move the control surfaces either

Oh my goodness gracious me , its lucky that you are not posting this in an aviation forum , else you'd be a laughing stock
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well, perhaps you might want to experience such a flight first? Haha.
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