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Old 22nd Apr 2008, 03:29 AM   #11 (permalink)
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They need an independent anti-corruption agency and a police complaints bureau to weed out all the dirty cops. Plus, the police needs to start firming up their men. So many are overweight and lack discipline.
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Dare I say PDRM have too much of one particular ethnic origin people. This will NOT change working cuture and habits for the better...period. It should be one third of each kind of people in the force..THEN U may SEE it become different!.
PDRM has to move to make a policeman's job more attractive and lure in other people. Without it..nothing gonna change!.
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Actually, that one is only partially their fault.

I've heard stories of Chinese or Indians being turned away at interviews with the police officers telling them to just "forget it".

Then again, not many Chinese or Indians want to apply for the job. So it's a two-way problem.

The way I see it... the police needs to buck up first. Once they shave off the crap and become a really professional force (ala Singaporean or HK police), people of other ethnicity will come flocking to their banner.

Money is only one issue. Most people want to be proud of the organization they work with. If the organization is tainted and corrupt (like PDRM now), who the heck wants to be associated with them?
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Well, it ain't easy to stop corruption. There is always someone else behind everything to protect them eh? What happen to the Ex chief inspector's so call corruption thingie? No news so long. I bet he already being released..
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Well, there is sometimes a black sheep in that ruins the image of the whole team.

But rethinking of the frequent roadblocks done to capture people who speeds at a highway which limits the speed to 80km/h makes me think otherwise. The police should be more considerate that their roadblocks cause jam and restricts people to travel at a slower speed, which causes even more jams.
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There are too many black sheeps in there to ignore...
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Well, it ain't easy to stop corruption. There is always someone else behind everything to protect them eh? What happen to the Ex chief inspector's so call corruption thingie? No news so long. I bet he already being released..
That one? If I'm not mistaken, that was a turf war between two groups of corrupt police officers protecting their own triad groups... Trial still underway.
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Well, there is sometimes a black sheep in that ruins the image of the whole team.

But rethinking of the frequent roadblocks done to capture people who speeds at a highway which limits the speed to 80km/h makes me think otherwise. The police should be more considerate that their roadblocks cause jam and restricts people to travel at a slower speed, which causes even more jams.
They have quotas to meet. Plus, they "need" to make more money.

80km/h is bad, but there are some places where they intentionally put 60km/h on a 6 lane roadway (in Prai, Penang). Then they wait for their victims.

IMHO, if you want to do that, why not just make a section of the highway 10km/h and arrest everyone that passes by? Cause there is just NO REASON for these roads to be locked at just 60km/h or 80km/h. There are no schools or exit roads nearby. These are virtually highways. There is only one reason = to obtain more fines and bribes.
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They have quotas to meet. Plus, they "need" to make more money.
80km/h is bad, but there are some places where they intentionally put 60km/h on a 6 lane roadway (in Prai, Penang). Then they wait for their victims.
If that were true, they're no more than legal robbers, thieves and extortionists. As the years go by and with the current political structure in place, I've little faith in the system and attitudes of PDRM. Police are here to enforce the law, protect and maintain the peace of the country. Its obvious they gloat of their success in solving big crimes and bringing criminals to justice but with traffic fines is anything but a stupid punitive measure that does not improve the local mindset of drivers. Malaysians have to learn the hard way. No talk one, talk two, just suspend the driving licence on the spot. You'd see people behave better. Sorry, but Malaysian mindset is rampantly opportunistic and frequent disregard for the law.
Observe some rural kampungs, motorcyclists without helmets and underaged kids riding bikes are often seen. Adults carrying 3 together including a toddler or young child. What are they thinking?. Put 2 + 2 together and we have a cowboy country right now.
Then we see a foreign worker riding bicycle on the same road as you BUT riding TOWARDS YOU.. What?..do they think this is Dacca or Jogjkarta ah?...add more to cowboy country!.
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If that were true, they're no more than legal robbers, thieves and extortionists. As the years go by and with the current political structure in place, I've little faith in the system and attitudes of PDRM. Police are here to enforce the law, protect and maintain the peace of the country. Its obvious they gloat of their success in solving big crimes and bringing criminals to justice but with traffic fines is anything but a stupid punitive measure that does not improve the local mindset of drivers. Malaysians have to learn the hard way. No talk one, talk two, just suspend the driving licence on the spot. You'd see people behave better. Sorry, but Malaysian mindset is rampantly opportunistic and frequent disregard for the law.
Observe some rural kampungs, motorcyclists without helmets and underaged kids riding bikes are often seen. Adults carrying 3 together including a toddler or young child. What are they thinking?. Put 2 + 2 together and we have a cowboy country right now.
Then we see a foreign worker riding bicycle on the same road as you BUT riding TOWARDS YOU.. What?..do they think this is Dacca or Jogjkarta ah?...add more to cowboy country!.
He's refering to speeding victim, rather than criminals.
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