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Old 5th Sep 2009, 12:48 AM   #1 (permalink)
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Default The government is misleading us about the hike in petrol prices and RON rating

I'm quite fed up with The Star. They already have a sordid reputation of spinning cover for the government, and they still continue to do so even after getting lambasted online time and time again. They are really HOPELESS.

Recently, they posted a piece on the increase (yet another) in petrol price as the government discontinued RON92 petrol and replaced it with RON95. The government made use of the switch to increase the price of RON95 by 5 cents and jacked the price of RON97 all the way to RM 2.05 per liter, which is 25 cents (13.9%) higher.

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How will you benefit from the new RON95 petrol?
by LEONG HUNG YEE

PETALING JAYA: RON95 was the buzz at neighbourhood petrol stations as consumers had to quickly grasp the differences between the RON92 (which is discontinued) and RON97 (which has been upgraded) and the new, more environment friendly oil.

The first thing they want to know is how they will benefit from this change to RON95 which retails at RM1.80 per litre.

“About 90% of motorists using RON97 (which has been upgraded to a premium product and sold at a higher price of RM2.05 per lire) can now switch to RON95,” said Domestic Trade, Cooperative and Consumer Affairs Ministry secretary-general Datuk Zain Mohd Dom.



“The price of RM1.80 for RON95 will be capped at this level for the rest of the year,’’ Zain told StarBiz, referring to a statement earlier by Minister Datuk Seri Ismail Sabri Yaakob. “It moves within an active price range, depending on the price trend of oil gauged over a one-month period.’’

All this while, consumers have been using RON97 which is too powerful for cars today. “Take a look at car manuals and one will often find that RON95 is recommended,’’ said Zain, adding that RON97 had stronger ingredients that were more suitable for higher powered cars.

RON (research octane number) measures the octane quality of fuel. It refers to the fuel’s ability to resist premature and uncontrolled combustion that occurs when fuel pre-ignites before ignition by the spark plug.

The newly-introduced RON95 fuel is priced at RM1.80, five sen higher than that of RON92, which is leaded petrol. Concurrently, RON97 has been upgraded as a premium product and its price has gone up to RM2.05 from RM1.80.

Ismail had said at a press conference on Tuesday although the price of RON95 was higher, the Government was still subsidising 33.81 sen per litre, which comes up to about RM304mil monthly.

He said the upward revision of the prices was necessary as the global crude oil price had doubled since the announcement by former minister Datuk Shahrir Abdul Samad in March that RON95 would be sold at RM1.75.

Currently, the Government is subsidising 42.72 sen per litre for RON97.

While consumers who were using RON92 are required to pay more when they upgrade to RON95, those using RON97 and are able to downgrade to RON95 will save 25 sen per litre.

According to car manufacturers, as long as the fuel used is not below the minimum RON requirement (RON91), it would be appropriate for any vehicle.

Given that 90% of all cars can use the newly-launched RON95, this should provide savings for most consumers. All Perodua and Proton cars are compatible with RON95.

“What you need to do is find out whether your car can run on RON95 or not. This information should be available in your car manual or on a sticker near your fuel flap,” an industry player said.

A BMW Malaysia spokesman said there were no problems with RON95, in general, for BMW models although there was no technical data on performance.

Performance cars such as Suzuki Swift Sport, Honda Civic Type R, Mitsubishi Airtrek Turbo, Mitsubishi Lancer Evolution, Range Rover and Skoda 200FSI are incompatible with RON95.

Owners of cars that are incompatible with RON95 will have to fork out an extra RM10 for every 40 litres of RON97.

Shell Malaysia Trading Sdn Bhd managing director Datuk Mohzani Wahab said the company remained confident that its revenue would increase this year, despite the anticipated lower sales of Shell Super 97 (RON97) due to the 25 sen price difference from the price of RON95.

Mohzani said the RON95 had received encouraging response from motorists so far.

Meanwhile, it was reported that Petronas Dagangan Bhd expected its RON95 fuel to register 95% sales. The company started selling RON95 in May and 65% of its consumers had opted for RON95 against RON92.
This isn't the first time the government has attempted to delude the public about RON rating. Neither is this the first time The Star has done their bit to spin the story for the government and pass fallacy for fact. Greatly displeased, I wrote to the editors of The Star :

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I’m writing in reference to the piece “How will you benefit from the new RON95 petrol?” by Leong Hung Yee.

I’m no motorhead but this is a misleading piece of spin. Here are the reasons why :

1. RON97 petrol, before and now, is the same product. It was not “upgraded” as the writer mentioned.
2. The government had earlier promised that the price for petrol will remain until the end of the year. The statement that RON95 will be capped at RM 1.80 is nothing more than an attempt to cover up the price hike. Then again, he’s a politician.
3. RON number does not measure the octane “quality” of the fuel. The octane rating is a measure of the RESISTANCE of petrol to premature detonation. It has nothing to do with fuel quality. The word “quality” should have never been mentioned, unless it was inserted intentionally to mislead the reader.
4. RON97 has “stronger” ingredients? A higher octane rating merely means the fuel is more resistant to premature detonation. It doesn’t mean the fuel is stronger or has stronger ingredients.
5. RON92 is NOT leaded petrol! Leaded petrol has been discontinued in Malaysia for years. RON92 is simply unleaded petrol with a Research Octane Number of 92!

Seriously, has the journalistic and editorial quality at The Star dropped so low that neither the journalist or the editor bothered to do a little fact-checking before publishing the piece?

If you do print a correction, please do inform the public that using petrol with a higher RON rating that your car’s engine supports is a waste of money. Petrol with a higher RON rating will NOT deliver better performance. If your car supports RON 91, then RON 91 is good enough.
I e-mailed that to them at 2:23 PM on Thursday, September 3rd. No response until today. No surprise.


Update @ Sept. 7

The government continues to lie...

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PETALING JAYA: There has been no increase in the prices of foodstuff and necessities following the price hike of RON95 fuel by five sen.

Domestic Trade, Co-operative and Consumerism Ministry secretary-general Datuk Mohd Zain Mohd Dom said the new price of RON95, which is RM1.80 per litre, was the same as the old price of RON97.

Since Sept 1, RON97 has been upgraded as a premium product and its price had increased from RM1.80 to RM2.05.

“About 90% to 95% of users will be using RON95, so there should be no reason for anyone to increase the prices of food items,” he said.

Some non-governmental organisations (NGOs) had claimed that the fuel increase had caused prices of other items to increase, but Mohd Zain said such a view was baseless and illogical.

“I get reports from our branches nationwide four times a day, and there has been no report of inflation due to the fuel hike,” he said.

He added that RON95 fuel contained a new additive, the EURO2, which made it more environmentally-friendly than RON97 without affecting its performance.
Note that Datuk Mohd Zain claims that RON95 petrol has a new additive called the EURO2. That is not true.

The new RON95 petrol merely meets the Euro 2 (1996) for passenger cars, which calls for a maximum CO emission of 2.2 g/km.

AFAIK, the composition and quantity of petrol additives are proprietary and unique to each producer. There is no such thing as a EURO2 additive, nor is there a standard additive package for all RON95 petrol.

As for prices going up because of the hike, well, that remains to be seen. However, we have seen in the past how even hawkers use hikes in petrol prices to justify price increases. These increases never go away, even after petrol prices drop. So I wouldn't consider fears of further price increases baseless and illogical.

Of course, we all hope that Datuk Mohd Zain is correct. After all, he seems to know things that we mere mortals are not privy to, like the new EURO2 additive.
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Yeah, the first thing I saw was the leaded RON92 which is so untrue. No wonder I still hear my friends saying RON92 is leaded petrol, which is so wrong.

Thanks to stupid journalism like this.
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Our government is also bullshitting us. Higher RON rating = better quality???

And they now have to hike the price because RON97 has been "upgraded" and uses "stronger ingredients"????

IMHO, they should have retained RON92. There are many cars that can use RON92. Even cars like the Honda Civic and CRV only need RON91.
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Actually, not that many cars can use RON 92, Perodua, Kia, some Honda etc.

Proton must use RON95 and above. Even my car needs RON95. But what I've really pissed about is, they hike up the price of RON95 to match the previous price of RON97.
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i'm only using 87 here in US, very common for standard cars. equivalent to RON91
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Actually, not that many cars can use RON 92, Perodua, Kia, some Honda etc.

Proton must use RON95 and above. Even my car needs RON95. But what I've really pissed about is, they hike up the price of RON95 to match the previous price of RON97.
LOL! Once you have Perodua, that's a LOT of cars!

If I'm not mistaken, many Toyota cars can also use RON92. Hyundai cars too.

Yeah, Proton must use RON95 or higher.

Exactly! They promised that RON95 would be at RM 1.75 but now they hike it up to RM 1.80. Their excuse? Oil prices have gone up. Bullshit.

The global oil price is currently around US$ 60 per barrel. Historically, oil was traded around $60-$70 per barrel from the middle of 2005 up till early 2008. Before August 2005, RON97 petrol was sold at RM 1.52. From August 2005 onwards, it went up 10 sen to RM 1.62. Only in March 2006 did it spike up 30 sen to RM 1.92.

In other words, if the government intends to maintain the previous level of subsidy, RON97 petrol should be sold at around RM 1.62 to RM 1.92. There's no justification for them to hike it up to RM 2.05, if they are actually retaining the same level of subsidy.

If they want to reduce the amount of subsidy, have the balls to admit it. I'm not against reducing the subsidy, I just hate it when they tell all kinds of ridiculous lies just to cover it up.

If the government and mainstream media are willing to mislead the public by disseminating false information over such a relatively benign issue (RON rating), imagine what else they could be lying to us about.
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LOL! Once you have Perodua, that's a LOT of cars!

If I'm not mistaken, many Toyota cars can also use RON92. Hyundai cars too.

Yeah, Proton must use RON95 or higher.

Exactly! They promised that RON95 would be at RM 1.75 but now they hike it up to RM 1.80. Their excuse? Oil prices have gone up. Bullshit.

The global oil price is currently around US$ 60 per barrel. Historically, oil was traded around $60-$70 per barrel from the middle of 2005 up till early 2008. Before August 2005, RON97 petrol was sold at RM 1.52. From August 2005 onwards, it went up 10 sen to RM 1.62. Only in March 2006 did it spike up 30 sen to RM 1.92.

In other words, if the government intends to maintain the previous level of subsidy, RON97 petrol should be sold at around RM 1.62 to RM 1.92. There's no justification for them to hike it up to RM 2.05, if they are actually retaining the same level of subsidy.

If they want to reduce the amount of subsidy, have the balls to admit it. I'm not against reducing the subsidy, I just hate it when they tell all kinds of ridiculous lies just to cover it up.

If the government and mainstream media are willing to mislead the public by disseminating false information over such a relatively benign issue (RON rating), imagine what else they could be lying to us about.
Well, only about 40% of the cars can use RON92, while 90% of the cars can use RON95. I thought the choice was pretty straight forward.

I'm just pissed off at the price hike.
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Well, only about 40% of the cars can use RON92, while 90% of the cars can use RON95. I thought the choice was pretty straight forward.

I'm just pissed off at the price hike.
Eh, 40% is a lot, especially since RON92 petrol is cheaper than RON95.

For me, the attempt to hide the price hike is one thing. What's also unacceptable is the callous manner in which both the government and the Star attempted to hookwink the public by outright lying about the truth.
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