Which wide-angle lens to get? - Page 2

Chai · 26th May 2008, 06:44 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Adrian Wong

Very nice shots!

I will be giving Chai's Sigma 10-20mm a try in Taipei. See how that works out.

Did you use fill-flash for your indoor shots?

Yesh, you most definitely have to, unless you bump up the ISO. F4-F5.6 is not very bright.

Adrian Wong · 26th May 2008, 07:55 PM

Is it sharp at f/4? Or do you have to stop down a little?

Chai · 26th May 2008, 08:04 PM

Not so sharp in the corners of course. But if you shoot indoor, the corner will distort most objects, sharpness is not really an issue anymore.

Adrian Wong · 26th May 2008, 08:16 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Chai

Not so sharp in the corners of course. But if you shoot indoor, the corner will distort most objects, sharpness is not really an issue anymore.

Oh, a little softness at the corners is expected. Just wondering if it's severe.

goldfries · 26th May 2008, 11:06 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Adrian Wong

Very nice shots!

I will be giving Chai's Sigma 10-20mm a try in Taipei. See how that works out.

nice. the HSM is a nice feature on this lens.

my only wish was that it was FF capable.

Quote:

Originally Posted by Adrian Wong

Did you use fill-flash for your indoor shots?

not all. the make-up room and the guy on the phone, no fill-in.

in the car, yes. cos outside too bright already. same goes to carpark shots, need to or else you know la. end up silhouette shots only.

lambency diffuser is used with the flash.

peaz · 26th May 2008, 11:17 PM

IMHO, go for the Sigma. Being a 10-20 user as well, it rocks.

You'd probably worry more about getting more light than worrying about it being soft at f4.

Use it along with your SB800 and you won't go wrong

goldfries · 27th May 2008, 12:46 AM

Wah Sigma 10-20 family here leh.

AFAIK a lot of people are eye-ing on Tokina 11-16 f2.8 - but seriously la, being UWA lens - you want DOF to be at f2.8 meh?

Well i didn't quite like the Sigma 10-20 for being f5.6 at 20mm but hey, i rarely use it at 20mm in the first place so it's not that great of a setback. just that would be nice to have 20mm range to have a little wider aperture.

Chai · 27th May 2008, 07:39 AM

For me, I would love to have Tokina at 2.8, not because of thin DOF, but because more light can come in, especially when you take a lot of indoors. You have to use bounced flash on Sigma. I think I would rather get 14-24.

Adrian Wong · 27th May 2008, 08:08 AM

Hmm.. Yeah, I think the Tokina 11-16mm's main advantage is its f/2.8 aperture. Then again, if you have to stop down for better sharpness and/or deeper DoF, then is there still a point for f/2.8?

Chai · 27th May 2008, 08:23 AM

Sharpness is good with Tokina, and DoF is not really a big issue at wide angle. As long as you can still see something. That's why you need D3, ISO25600!

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goldfries More Than Meets The Eye Join Date: 22 Jan 2003 Location: KL/PJ Malaysia Posts: 7,877 Reputation: 539 Rep Power: 18	Wah Sigma 10-20 family here leh. AFAIK a lot of people are eye-ing on Tokina 11-16 f2.8 - but seriously la, being UWA lens - you want DOF to be at f2.8 meh? Well i didn't quite like the Sigma 10-20 for being f5.6 at 20mm but hey, i rarely use it at 20mm in the first place so it's not that great of a setback. just that would be nice to have 20mm range to have a little wider aperture. __________________ no computer specs \| no photography gear list \| no userbars \| no quotes

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Chai Administrator Join Date: 6 Oct 2002 Location: Maranello Posts: 26,993 Reputation: 4108 Rep Power: 74	For me, I would love to have Tokina at 2.8, not because of thin DOF, but because more light can come in, especially when you take a lot of indoors. You have to use bounced flash on Sigma. I think I would rather get 14-24. __________________ Chai (Contributor & Forum Admin) http://www.techarp.com/

27th May 2008, 08:08 AM	#19 (permalink)
Adrian Wong Da Boss Join Date: 10 Oct 2002 Location: In front of my ASUS F8V notebook! Posts: 30,419 Reputation: 3147 Rep Power: 68	Hmm.. Yeah, I think the Tokina 11-16mm's main advantage is its f/2.8 aperture. Then again, if you have to stop down for better sharpness and/or deeper DoF, then is there still a point for f/2.8? __________________ Dr. Adrian Wong Tech ARP \| Blog @ Tech ARP \| The Free Trade Zone DYKT : The only offshore account I have is at the sand bank? We need PROGRAMMERS and TECHNICAL WRITERS! Contact us if you are a hot shot programmer or technical writer! My items for sale : 50x SD Card \| Memory Stick PRO \| Cyclone Energy Saver \| Seiko SS watch \| Tiger/Carlsberg beer jugs \| Travel Speakers \| Motorola V600 \| Nokia N90 SOLD! \| New Lowepro Mini Trekker AW Other items for sale @ the FTZ : Zalman CNPS9500 LED @ $20 \| Zalman CNPS7700 Cu @ $20 \| Zalman CNPS7000 Cu @ $20 \| Swarovski bracelet watches \| Dell 17" LCD \| Hi-Fi speakers \| English DIVX movies \| HP LaserJet toners! \| Office chairs

27th May 2008, 08:23 AM	#20 (permalink)
Chai Administrator Join Date: 6 Oct 2002 Location: Maranello Posts: 26,993 Reputation: 4108 Rep Power: 74	Sharpness is good with Tokina, and DoF is not really a big issue at wide angle. As long as you can still see something. That's why you need D3, ISO25600! __________________ Chai (Contributor & Forum Admin) http://www.techarp.com/

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