How to circumvent SecuROM in Spore? - Page 2

PsYkHoTiK · 17th Sep 2008, 01:25 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by jamotto

How so? It uses a similar version of SecuROM.

I don't think 2K has released it yet at-least for those who bought the retail version, strolling around on their website, I couldn't find no such patch. Also the automatic deactivation only works for those who use Steam. People who have retail copies have to download a "revoke tool".

Out of curiosity why is it your preferred method? Steam is nothing but one HUGE drm machine.

#1. Steam has SecuROM true. But it does not have any limits. I can simply go to a friends PC, install the client, download and play the game there and log off. SecuROM is used ONLY so that my friend can log into his/her steam account but cannot play the installed game unless if they have that game on their account too. I can install it as many times as I want for as long as I want.

Plus, it updates everything for me.

It does not phone home, it does not limit my install numbers, it only activates the code once in the beginning to bind a game to my account, and I don't have to plop a disc in to play. It connects to a central server and all things considered, it is the lesser evil of content protection.

#2. Activation limits removed on BioShock for the PC - 2K Forums

Like I said, removed (the activation limits).

They promised it from the start.

#3. Disk > Steam > SecuROM 7/Starforce infested crap.

jamotto · 17th Sep 2008, 02:29 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by PsYkHoTiK

#1... it is the lesser evil of content protection.

#2. Activation limits removed on BioShock for the PC - 2K Forums

Like I said, removed (the activation limits).

They promised it from the start.

#3. Disk > Steam > SecuROM 7/Starforce infested crap.

1.)That is a horrible way to choose, we deserve better.

2.)Ok, yes the activation limit was removed, however should something happen and you can't activate the game it is still nothing more than a coaster.

3.)A disk with no drm, accept no substitute.

PsYkHoTiK · 17th Sep 2008, 03:20 AM

While I agree with you (perfect world with no DRM), realistically, it is not going to happen soon (hence the lesser evils).

As long as it doesn't inconvenience me, doesn't intrude, doesn't limit, respects privacy, and most of all, does not treat me like a criminal, I could really care less what they do. Steam currently fits the bill for me (as opposed to discs).

Stardock is the only one that has no protection, but I can't say they make the games I like either.

but we are headed way off topic.

Motoman · 18th Sep 2008, 10:45 AM

I don't have any problem with having to have the disk in the drive. But I do have a problem with not being able to (easily - i.e. no protection at all) make a backup of my legally paid-for disks, so that I can protect myself against the original aging and degrading, or losing/breaking the original. I have a legal right to do this, and it absolutely confounds me that anyone thinks a publisher has any legal basis whatsoever to deny me that right.

I have a massive problem with rootkitting. Seriously - are you on #@$%ing drugs? Who thinks this is OK?

I have another massive problem with limiting installs. I rebuild my machines all the time. SOP. So don't be stupid, dear publisher.

If a publisher/industry wants to eliminate piracy as best as can be done (there will always be some pirates), they need to:

1. Have no DRM on a CD whatsoever. ANY DRM serves only to ENCOURAGE piracy. In no way, at all, in any concieveable universe, does DRM decrease piracy - and in all universes, it increases it.

2. Require a CD in the drive if you like. Don't care. So long as you let me make backups without any BS in my face. It should flat out be illegal for a publiser to interfere with my right to make a backup in the first place.

3. Require accounts to use online/server content. Allow only one simultaneous logon per account.

That's it. I bet my life on the notion that following those 3 steps would result in vastly less piracy than what is currently happening to Spore.

Stop effing around with this DRM crap that serves no purpose other than to drive legitimate consumers (like me) to piracy and DRM-skirting measures. Follow the 3 golden rules above an enjoy greater sales, greater margins, and happier customers.

Chai · 18th Sep 2008, 01:09 PM

I quite agree with you, especially on 3. That's what they did with Steam, and seems to work fine.

PsYkHoTiK · 18th Sep 2008, 01:17 PM

Crysis Warhead just came out (guess who the publisher is). I might go with the Steam version.

Midicow · 7th Oct 2008, 06:56 AM

actually if you use a valid cdkey to install.. you can simply get one of the version 1.01 cracks running around and overwrite the sporebin binary with that.. when you start it up it doesn't ask for any drm or securom or whatnot, and you can logon ingame like normal.

Other than that.. unless you happen to have a particularly good knowledge of asm and/or want to do some hack'n'slash with wine and a linuxy or mac type os.. nothing comes to mind.

starboykb · 7th Oct 2008, 09:01 AM

Red Alert 3 will bundle the Securom with 5 install limit which i hate it a lot. Unless if it allowed you to restore your limit after you uninstall it, i am fine with that. But what i heard from many complained is that these Securom rom can cause problem to your Window. this is the question i am seeking because i got my legit Kane Warth and my window xp is totally mess up recently, im not sure if it was the cause of it.

17th Sep 2008, 03:20 AM	#13 (permalink)
PsYkHoTiK "Little" Devil Join Date: 8 Apr 2004 Location: On the "throne" Posts: 14,746 Reputation: 4681 Rep Power: 66	While I agree with you (perfect world with no DRM), realistically, it is not going to happen soon (hence the lesser evils). As long as it doesn't inconvenience me, doesn't intrude, doesn't limit, respects privacy, and most of all, does not treat me like a criminal, I could really care less what they do. Steam currently fits the bill for me (as opposed to discs). Stardock is the only one that has no protection, but I can't say they make the games I like either. but we are headed way off topic. __________________ Intel SLBEJ @ 4GHz : 3x2GB OCZ Platinum DDR3 1600 : Asus P6X58 Premium : WD RE3 250GB x2 RAID 0 : 3ware 9650SE-2LP : XFX Radeon 5850 : XFi Platinum : Silverstone OP650 : Silverstone TJ-07 : Swiftech Apogee XT : MCP655 : Thermochill PA120.3 w Scythe Ultra Kaze CPU-Z: SLBEJ : SLAPL : SLA9U : FX-55 : DDR 600 : VX www.techarp.com

18th Sep 2008, 01:09 PM	#15 (permalink)
Chai Administrator Join Date: 6 Oct 2002 Location: Maranello Posts: 28,125 Reputation: 4649 Rep Power: 82	I quite agree with you, especially on 3. That's what they did with Steam, and seems to work fine. __________________ Chai (Contributor & Forum Admin) http://www.techarp.com/

18th Sep 2008, 01:17 PM	#16 (permalink)
PsYkHoTiK "Little" Devil Join Date: 8 Apr 2004 Location: On the "throne" Posts: 14,746 Reputation: 4681 Rep Power: 66	Crysis Warhead just came out (guess who the publisher is). I might go with the Steam version. __________________ Intel SLBEJ @ 4GHz : 3x2GB OCZ Platinum DDR3 1600 : Asus P6X58 Premium : WD RE3 250GB x2 RAID 0 : 3ware 9650SE-2LP : XFX Radeon 5850 : XFi Platinum : Silverstone OP650 : Silverstone TJ-07 : Swiftech Apogee XT : MCP655 : Thermochill PA120.3 w Scythe Ultra Kaze CPU-Z: SLBEJ : SLAPL : SLA9U : FX-55 : DDR 600 : VX www.techarp.com

7th Oct 2008, 06:56 AM	#17 (permalink)
Midicow Just Started Join Date: 4 May 2008 Posts: 59 Reputation: 0 Rep Power: 0	actually if you use a valid cdkey to install.. you can simply get one of the version 1.01 cracks running around and overwrite the sporebin binary with that.. when you start it up it doesn't ask for any drm or securom or whatnot, and you can logon ingame like normal. Other than that.. unless you happen to have a particularly good knowledge of asm and/or want to do some hack'n'slash with wine and a linuxy or mac type os.. nothing comes to mind. __________________

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Motoman Warming up Join Date: 13 Jan 2008 Posts: 106 Reputation: 62 Rep Power: 3	I don't have any problem with having to have the disk in the drive. But I do have a problem with not being able to (easily - i.e. no protection at all) make a backup of my legally paid-for disks, so that I can protect myself against the original aging and degrading, or losing/breaking the original. I have a legal right to do this, and it absolutely confounds me that anyone thinks a publisher has any legal basis whatsoever to deny me that right. I have a massive problem with rootkitting. Seriously - are you on #@$%ing drugs? Who thinks this is OK? I have another massive problem with limiting installs. I rebuild my machines all the time. SOP. So don't be stupid, dear publisher. If a publisher/industry wants to eliminate piracy as best as can be done (there will always be some pirates), they need to: 1. Have no DRM on a CD whatsoever. ANY DRM serves only to ENCOURAGE piracy. In no way, at all, in any concieveable universe, does DRM decrease piracy - and in all universes, it increases it. 2. Require a CD in the drive if you like. Don't care. So long as you let me make backups without any BS in my face. It should flat out be illegal for a publiser to interfere with my right to make a backup in the first place. 3. Require accounts to use online/server content. Allow only one simultaneous logon per account. That's it. I bet my life on the notion that following those 3 steps would result in vastly less piracy than what is currently happening to Spore. Stop effing around with this DRM crap that serves no purpose other than to drive legitimate consumers (like me) to piracy and DRM-skirting measures. Follow the 3 golden rules above an enjoy greater sales, greater margins, and happier customers.

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starboykb Getting there Join Date: 6 Oct 2008 Location: Brunei earth Posts: 158 Reputation: 0 Rep Power: 2	Red Alert 3 will bundle the Securom with 5 install limit which i hate it a lot. Unless if it allowed you to restore your limit after you uninstall it, i am fine with that. But what i heard from many complained is that these Securom rom can cause problem to your Window. this is the question i am seeking because i got my legit Kane Warth and my window xp is totally mess up recently, im not sure if it was the cause of it.