My shopping list. - Page 2

Chai · 26th Jan 2006, 09:39 AM

Wow...I wish we have sales here!

Olle P · 26th Jan 2006, 03:27 PM

Well, I guess it's a matter of tradition and regular price levels.
The typical price for of a GF7800GT card in a Swedish on-line store is ~3500 SEK, which equals 460 USD (at todays exchange rate).
On sale my card cost "only" 2995 SEK (~395 USD) plus 99 SEK shipping.
(If I go shopping downtown I have to pay at least 10% and probably closer to 20% more.)

The 25% sales tax is a killer in raising costs...

Cheers
Olle

Chai · 26th Jan 2006, 04:38 PM

That's very expensive! And I thought USD 360+ here is expensive!

Papercut · 26th Jan 2006, 05:25 PM

Yeah I've heard the taxes in Sweden are pretty bad.

Olle P · 26th Jan 2006, 08:24 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Papercut

Yeah I've heard the taxes in Sweden are pretty bad.

Let's see:
- Income (salary) tax: ~35% (Unless you've got more than an average salary. Then the tax goes up towards 50%.)
- Financial income tax: ~30%.
- Property tax: Insignificant, unless you're very rich.
- Car tax. To cover road maintenance and registrations.
- House tax. Hey, the house is there, so why not tax 1.5% of it's property value in addition to any property tax?
- Sales tax. Typically 25%, but with exceptions. Books, for example, are only 6%.
- CO2 tax. Applies to fossile fuel.
- Alcohol tax.
- Tobacco tax.
- Dog tax.

And then we have the latest invention: Crowd tax! If you drive a car registered in Sweden through central Stockholm on a weekday you'll have to pay some tax for that. (See Stockholmsförsöket (in English).)

On the other hand, we do get something for all these taxes:
- Free schools, including university.
- Cheap healthcare.
- Fairly good roads.
- Retirement funds.
- Other social benefits.

Cheers
Olle

kayFX · 26th Jan 2006, 09:02 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Olle P

Prices change every week...
The graphics cards seem to be dropping in price, and I've decided to wait to place any order until the cheapest CPU I've found is in stock by the 3rd of february.

Right now best option for graphics is a XFX GF7800GT, slightly overclocked from factory. (450/1050 MHz instead of 400/1000)

Cheers
Olle

sound like stock market..

Olle P · 27th Jan 2006, 11:10 PM

I've now ordered the rest I need:
- Motherboard: Asus A8N-E
- CPU: Athlon64 3200+ Venice, boxed
- RAM: Kingston value 2x512MB, 3-3-3-3. (I contemplated Corsair 2.5-3-3-8, but the extra cost wouldn't justify the expected less than 1.3% performance increase.)
- Power plug adaptor 20pin -> 24pin.

Delivery expected some 10+ days from now, since the CPU isn't in stock yet.

Cheers
Olle

Olle P · 6th Feb 2006, 04:22 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by kayFX

sound like stock market..

It is like stock market! (With the exception that you can never sell at higher than purchase price...)

... and it seems like I had ner perfect timing!

- Since I ordered most components have risen in price, so ordering right now would have cost me a bit, about 5%, more.
- The new joystick, that's been something of a black sheep ordered as an update, because the new hardware won't support my old one, rather than an upgrade or replacement, is now needed as a replacement because my old stick started to lose it's calibration yesterday (about 12 hours after the new stick had been sent off by mail). I have to recalibrate it just before use, and then recalibrate it every half hour or so for continued use.

Cheers
Olle

26th Jan 2006, 09:39 AM	#11 (permalink)
Chai Administrator Join Date: 6 Oct 2002 Location: Maranello Posts: 26,662 Reputation: 3984 Rep Power: 72	Wow...I wish we have sales here! __________________ Chai (Contributor & Forum Admin) http://www.techarp.com/

26th Jan 2006, 03:27 PM	#12 (permalink)
Olle P Active Join Date: 12 Jan 2005 Location: Sweden Posts: 815 Reputation: 315 Rep Power: 7	Well, I guess it's a matter of tradition and regular price levels. The typical price for of a GF7800GT card in a Swedish on-line store is ~3500 SEK, which equals 460 USD (at todays exchange rate). On sale my card cost "only" 2995 SEK (~395 USD) plus 99 SEK shipping. (If I go shopping downtown I have to pay at least 10% and probably closer to 20% more.) The 25% sales tax is a killer in raising costs... Cheers Olle __________________ If you're not living on the edge you take up too much space... Asus A8E-N, Athlon64 X2 4600+, 1024MB Kingston value, XFX GF7800GT, Seagate 160GB/8MB Last edited by Olle P : 26th Jan 2006 at 08:02 PM.

26th Jan 2006, 04:38 PM	#13 (permalink)
Chai Administrator Join Date: 6 Oct 2002 Location: Maranello Posts: 26,662 Reputation: 3984 Rep Power: 72	That's very expensive! And I thought USD 360+ here is expensive! __________________ Chai (Contributor & Forum Admin) http://www.techarp.com/

26th Jan 2006, 05:25 PM	#14 (permalink)
Papercut Hyperactive Join Date: 14 Jul 2004 Location: Singapore! Posts: 4,982 Reputation: 2428 Rep Power: 33	Yeah I've heard the taxes in Sweden are pretty bad. __________________ PC Specs "Use in a cool dry place away from direct sunlight. Keep out of reach of n00bs. Overclock within 24 hours of opening. Do not read instructions before proceeding, do not use only as directed. May cause frustration, late nights and empty wallets. If symptoms persist please consult your hardware professional."

27th Jan 2006, 11:10 PM	#17 (permalink)
Olle P Active Join Date: 12 Jan 2005 Location: Sweden Posts: 815 Reputation: 315 Rep Power: 7	I've now ordered the rest I need: - Motherboard: Asus A8N-E - CPU: Athlon64 3200+ Venice, boxed - RAM: Kingston value 2x512MB, 3-3-3-3. (I contemplated Corsair 2.5-3-3-8, but the extra cost wouldn't justify the expected less than 1.3% performance increase.) - Power plug adaptor 20pin -> 24pin. Delivery expected some 10+ days from now, since the CPU isn't in stock yet. Cheers Olle __________________ If you're not living on the edge you take up too much space... Asus A8E-N, Athlon64 X2 4600+, 1024MB Kingston value, XFX GF7800GT, Seagate 160GB/8MB