Sata and IDE - Page 2

kayFX · 31st Jan 2006, 12:51 AM

PATA also can do RAID nowadays..

Majormaggot · 31st Jan 2006, 08:43 AM

Thanks for the replies. i know how install it and all that, i was just wondering which way would be better for performance wise, since i do a lot of gaming i guess that i should put windows and all my games on the SATA drive and have the rest on the IDE.

also i plan on installing fedora on the same computer (trying to learn how to use it so i can kiss windows goodbye) but i don't want to use the bootloader that comes with it since it takes quite a while to load up, is there another one out there thats better??

AAY · 5th Feb 2006, 02:13 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by luqman

wired i heard of it using Raids so i thought it was SCSI! but really confusing

FYI the concept of RAID is independent of controller or disk type. RAIDs have been created with ATA, SATA, SCSI, FC and even a bunch of iPod Shuffles. Also, SCSI does not require devices to be assigned as masters/slaves - SCSI devices use ID numbers which range from 0-7 or 0-14 (depending on the age of the controller in use).

sas · 10th Feb 2006, 10:17 PM

Continuing this topic of SATA's and IDE. I am having problems with this issue. I have upgraded to a SATA 1 160G drive to replace an ageing 40G drive (IDE). My MB is DFI PT880 ALF (VIA Chipset) + Prescott 2.4 processor. However having difficulty installing windows on the new drive as it cannot copy the VIASRAID.SYS from the floppy disc. I can install windows by running the cd from the old drive. However when I remove the old HD, it refuses to boot. A message NTLDR file is missing. Updated the installation folders from internet but still the same thing. If I run both drive together and use windows on the new SATA drive it works perfectly. What am I doing wrong. Does it need a BIOS tweak. There's no SATA option. Is it replace by SCSI but I don't think that it is so.

Any advice, anyone?

Adrian Wong · 11th Feb 2006, 12:03 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by sas

Continuing this topic of SATA's and IDE. I am having problems with this issue. I have upgraded to a SATA 1 160G drive to replace an ageing 40G drive (IDE). My MB is DFI PT880 ALF (VIA Chipset) + Prescott 2.4 processor. However having difficulty installing windows on the new drive as it cannot copy the VIASRAID.SYS from the floppy disc. I can install windows by running the cd from the old drive. However when I remove the old HD, it refuses to boot. A message NTLDR file is missing. Updated the installation folders from internet but still the same thing. If I run both drive together and use windows on the new SATA drive it works perfectly. What am I doing wrong. Does it need a BIOS tweak. There's no SATA option. Is it replace by SCSI but I don't think that it is so.

Any advice, anyone?

You need to use the SCSI option. Yeah, it's basically the switch for the SATA controller.

Guz · 16th Mar 2006, 01:41 PM

Hello. I'm having an ackward problem here and I wonder if any of you guys can help me out.
I used to have Windows XP intalled on a 20Gb IDE, and had a 80Gb IDE and a 80Gb SATA for storage.
Now I installed Windows XP 64bits on the SATA, and left the others intalled for storage purposes.

The problem is, Windows isn´t reconizing any of the IDE HDs.
And it's not reconizing any of the CD-ROMs either, because they´re connected to the IDEs (that´s my guess for these not to be working).

The BIOS recognize the IDE drives in the boot list. And I can make a boot through the CD also...

I'm using:
AMD Athlon 64 3200+
MSI Mobo (K8MM-ILSR)

What do I have to do to make Windows recognize the IDE drives?

Thanks in advance!

Note: Before this, I installed Windows XP 64 on the 20Gb IDE and it recognized all the drives...

fyire · 16th Mar 2006, 02:19 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by luqman

wired i heard of it using Raids so i thought it was SCSI! but really confusing

well, it can get confusing to some people at times, since on some systems, stuff like SATA, or even USB drives gets picked up as somekinda virtual SCSI system (meaning that connectivity gets routed via the top level SCSI drivers on the OS). In fact, even for windows, the Alcohol 120% app's virtual CD drive is detected as being on a SCSI interface.

PsYkHoTiK · 16th Mar 2006, 09:17 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Guz

Hello. I'm having an ackward problem here and I wonder if any of you guys can help me out.
I used to have Windows XP intalled on a 20Gb IDE, and had a 80Gb IDE and a 80Gb SATA for storage.
Now I installed Windows XP 64bits on the SATA, and left the others intalled for storage purposes.

The problem is, Windows isn´t reconizing any of the IDE HDs.
And it's not reconizing any of the CD-ROMs either, because they´re connected to the IDEs (that´s my guess for these not to be working).

The BIOS recognize the IDE drives in the boot list. And I can make a boot through the CD also...

I'm using:
AMD Athlon 64 3200+
MSI Mobo (K8MM-ILSR)

What do I have to do to make Windows recognize the IDE drives?

Thanks in advance!

Note: Before this, I installed Windows XP 64 on the 20Gb IDE and it recognized all the drives...

You need to install the x64 drivers from the a floppy for nvata and nvraid. The normal floppies that came with your motherboard are 32bit drivers. I have the files for the floppy if you want.

31st Jan 2006, 12:51 AM	#11 (permalink)
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Majormaggot Getting there Join Date: 5 Sep 2005 Posts: 164 Reputation: 59 Rep Power: 4	Thanks for the replies. i know how install it and all that, i was just wondering which way would be better for performance wise, since i do a lot of gaming i guess that i should put windows and all my games on the SATA drive and have the rest on the IDE. also i plan on installing fedora on the same computer (trying to learn how to use it so i can kiss windows goodbye) but i don't want to use the bootloader that comes with it since it takes quite a while to load up, is there another one out there thats better?? __________________ Intel Pentium Dual Core E2160 @ 3.1 GHz 1.475 Vcore, Asus P5W DH Deluxe, 2GB Corsair XMS twin X 2, enermax galaxy 850w, Sound blaster X-FI Xtream Music, XFX 8800GT 512 MB, 2x 400GB Seagate HDD in Raid 0, 1x 250 GB WD HDD, 1x 120 GB WD HDD, A mighty Zalman 9500 cooler crying for help. and ArcticSliver 5, DVD drives n shizzle.

10th Feb 2006, 10:17 PM	#14 (permalink)
sas Newbie Join Date: 14 Dec 2005 Posts: 4 Reputation: 0 Rep Power: 0	Formating SATA drive Continuing this topic of SATA's and IDE. I am having problems with this issue. I have upgraded to a SATA 1 160G drive to replace an ageing 40G drive (IDE). My MB is DFI PT880 ALF (VIA Chipset) + Prescott 2.4 processor. However having difficulty installing windows on the new drive as it cannot copy the VIASRAID.SYS from the floppy disc. I can install windows by running the cd from the old drive. However when I remove the old HD, it refuses to boot. A message NTLDR file is missing. Updated the installation folders from internet but still the same thing. If I run both drive together and use windows on the new SATA drive it works perfectly. What am I doing wrong. Does it need a BIOS tweak. There's no SATA option. Is it replace by SCSI but I don't think that it is so. Any advice, anyone?

16th Mar 2006, 01:41 PM	#16 (permalink)
Guz Newbie Join Date: 16 Mar 2006 Posts: 1 Reputation: 0 Rep Power: 0	Hello. I'm having an ackward problem here and I wonder if any of you guys can help me out. I used to have Windows XP intalled on a 20Gb IDE, and had a 80Gb IDE and a 80Gb SATA for storage. Now I installed Windows XP 64bits on the SATA, and left the others intalled for storage purposes. The problem is, Windows isn´t reconizing any of the IDE HDs. And it's not reconizing any of the CD-ROMs either, because they´re connected to the IDEs (that´s my guess for these not to be working). The BIOS recognize the IDE drives in the boot list. And I can make a boot through the CD also... I'm using: AMD Athlon 64 3200+ MSI Mobo (K8MM-ILSR) What do I have to do to make Windows recognize the IDE drives? Thanks in advance! Note: Before this, I installed Windows XP 64 on the 20Gb IDE and it recognized all the drives...