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Old 1st Feb 2006, 05:41 AM   #11 (permalink)
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Yeah, data can still be pulled from the platters. Shock will kill the hard drive but not the data on the platters.
I just go by the article:
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The first drive came from a laptop that had tumbled off a coffee table and onto a hardwood floor. After the fall the drive wouldn't boot, but in all likelihood most of the data was intact. The second was a Samsung SpinPoint drive that simply crashed one day—out of the blue. When we tried to reboot, it did nothing but click incessantly. Obviously, some sort of internal mechanism was damaged, but again, we couldn't imagine that much of the data had come to grief.
So far everything should still be readable, once the electronics and mechanics have been fixed, but...
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Unfortunately, we asked Dan to pack up the drives and mail them out. He tossed them into an envelope, slapped on an address, and dropped them into the office UPS bin. No padding. No Styrofoam peanuts. Nothing. The drives were free to bounce around like marbles in a pinball machine all the way from New York City to Eden Prairie, Minnesota.

... each platter holds billions of tiny magnetized data regions, or bits. Magnetically oriented in one direction, ... As long as the original orientations are intact, engineers can typically read a block of data. But it's easy to scramble those magnetic orientations or physically damage the bit regions. When this happens, the data is lost forever.

By the time it arrived at Ontrack, the laptop drive was completely shot. Too many of the bits had turned and the engineers couldn't recover a single file. As for the SpinPoint drive, they retrieved only a quarter of the files, and the overall data structure, including individual filenames, was beyond recovery.
So too many individual bits had been scrambled beyond recognition.
As they sum it up:
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... as our laptop and SpinPoint drives tumbled around the planes, trains, and automobiles carrying them across the country, far too many of the bits were scrambled or damaged. ... About 26 percent of those magnetic orientations were still intact on the Spinpoint, but on the laptop drive, almost none of them survived.
Thus, the data is gone!

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Well then just take it out and give it a good hammering! when you think youve done enough damage KILL IT AGAIN!!!!!

or seperate the platters and send em to a burial at sea...

That ought to do it.....(lol)
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I just go by the article:So far everything should still be readable, once the electronics and mechanics have been fixed, but...So too many individual bits had been scrambled beyond recognition.
As they sum it up:
Thus, the data is gone!

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Ironic considering the laptop drive was designed to be mobile!
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Old 1st Feb 2006, 08:17 AM   #14 (permalink)
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lol UPS can destroy ur hdd too judging by how some of my received UPS shipped packages arrive...
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With UPS I don't mean "Uninterrupted Power Supply", but "United Parcel Service" (or any other parcel transporter, for that sake).

Put the harddrive in an unpadded box or envelope and send it across the continent. When it arrives at the destination you can be pretty sure that any data previously stored on the drive (as well as the drive itself) is FUBAR.

Source: PCMag article: Hard Drive Healers.

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there is this special dusting proccess i dunno what it is called but u litterly dust off the 0's and 1's pretty expensive i heard i'll find an article on that
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Hard drive platter + Bottle of Draino(Sodium hydroxide) = no more data
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harddrive + sledge hammer + one bad day at work = no more data

harddrive + explosives = no more data....

how hard (and fun) is that??
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You could also do this...
http://www.bbspot.com/News/2004/05/b...ice_drive.html
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And to further quote...
"BBspot Labs does recommend not trying this at home, unless you have completely embedded computer components in a block of ice before."

Best laugh I've had in a while....
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LMAO! The best way to remove evidence!
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