Noobs 1st PC BUild advice

wannabgeek · 17th Apr 2006, 10:33 PM

Hi people my 1st post! I am building my 1st ever PC and have got some stuff but still need a CPU & Cooling plus 2 GB RAM so i am hoping you Pro's can ps advise! What i was thinking of was a 1. AMD 64 3700+ 2. 2x 1GB Corsair DDR XMS3200C2PT. Should i maybe get better? . The PC will be used for Web/Gaming/Video-Photo editing (CS2) i dont intend to OC just yet but as i get more wise one never knows

Heres what i have already and what ive purchased at present :

New: Mobo:Asrock 939 Dual (Reason i still have a AGP GPU)
New: PSU: Hiper 580w Type R
Old: GPU:" AGP Version"XFX 6800LE (Modded with all pipes opened)
Old: Sound: Audigy 2 5-1 + Creative 5-1 Spkrs
New: Case: Thermaltake Sonata
Old: DVD RW: NEC 3500a
Old: Maxtor, Dmax 10, 200GB Ultra ATA & Maxto,r Dmax 9,120GB ATA

MY Budget is £300

1031982 · 18th Apr 2006, 04:30 AM

Well, I would recommend getting a different mobo with PCI-E and a new video card. If you are going to do gaming, that's the next thing you want.
I never heard of Hiper. Are they known in your aria? If not, I would say get a better brand like Sparkle, Enermax, or Antec.
The rest of that looks good.

Chai · 18th Apr 2006, 07:24 AM

What is your current system?

It's not the best time to buy a new system now.

Papercut · 18th Apr 2006, 12:17 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by 1031982

I never heard of Hiper. Are they known in your aria? If not, I would say get a better brand like Sparkle, Enermax, or Antec.
The rest of that looks good.

Hiper are quite popular in Europe and their products are starting to diffuse into the rest of the world. They have this "Type-R" modular PSU (don't laugh) that looks quite flashy and is of decent quality

werty316 · 20th Apr 2006, 02:22 AM

I would also suggest a different board that has PCI-E and to go along with it a 7600GT/X1800GTO is the bare minimum to get some decent gaming or a 7900GT. If you have a budget then the ASRock should be good enough. YOu could also wait for Vista to be released so you can get your hands on a DX10 video card or get a older card as they should be down in price by the time DX10 cards are out.

1031982 · 20th Apr 2006, 05:07 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Papercut

Hiper are quite popular in Europe and their products are starting to diffuse into the rest of the world. They have this "Type-R" modular PSU (don't laugh) that looks quite flashy and is of decent quality

Very well then, leave the PSU alone, apparently it's a good choice. (I just have no knowledge of them except what's been stated.)

As you can see wannabgeek, a different mobo and video card are the only things that are being altered. And I would agree with werty316 in waiting if you can. With Vista coming out, DX10 is going to be the big thing people want, so if you can wait, you can get something really good, or at least cheaper. If not, I would say look at anything that has the label "Built for Windows Vista" Some cards have it, but unfortunately, I can't help with that.

PsYkHoTiK · 20th Apr 2006, 05:25 AM

Vista is next year though... Prolly even longer...

wannabgeek · 21st Apr 2006, 07:35 AM

Hi Guys thanks for your help!
My mobo is a pci e (and AGP) i have just purchased this so thats a bit of a bummer to start! What about a CPU any clues here?

My PC at present:

XP Home
MESH-P4 2.53ghz
Asus P4S8X
Nanya: 2x256 pc2700 + 1x512 pc3200
Maxtor 200gb& Maxtor120gb
ATX case
350 psu (Mesh)
Nvidia 6800 LE (OC'd)
Audigy 2/5-1 sound
Nec 3500a CD/DVD/RW
Panasonic LF-D311 Ram/R
Mitsubishi 19" Blck Diamond

Chai · 21st Apr 2006, 09:56 PM

Which mobo is PCIe and AGP?

vfrex · 23rd Apr 2006, 01:36 AM

I intepreted that as he already purchased the ASROCK board.

Assuming I am right...wannabgeek, I wouldn't be too disappointed with your purchase. A huge number of people go with it. I just built my friend a system with it a month or two back, because he wasn't ready to upgrade from his Radeon 9800 pro yet. You should realize that the AGP slot will not perform at the full speed of AGP slots on other boards. I think you will face something like a 5% performance hit.

Also, I'm certainly not an expert by any means on performance builds, but is it really critical to get the corsair XMS? What about downgrading to Corsair ValueRam? That would save you a bit, and maybe allow you to get a better processor (or start you down the road to a PCI-E video card).

17th Apr 2006, 10:33 PM	#1 (permalink)
wannabgeek Newbie Join Date: 17 Apr 2006 Posts: 3 Reputation: 0 Rep Power: 0	Noobs 1st PC BUild advice Hi people my 1st post! I am building my 1st ever PC and have got some stuff but still need a CPU & Cooling plus 2 GB RAM so i am hoping you Pro's can ps advise! What i was thinking of was a 1. AMD 64 3700+ 2. 2x 1GB Corsair DDR XMS3200C2PT. Should i maybe get better? . The PC will be used for Web/Gaming/Video-Photo editing (CS2) i dont intend to OC just yet but as i get more wise one never knows Heres what i have already and what ive purchased at present : New: Mobo:Asrock 939 Dual (Reason i still have a AGP GPU) New: PSU: Hiper 580w Type R Old: GPU:" AGP Version"XFX 6800LE (Modded with all pipes opened) Old: Sound: Audigy 2 5-1 + Creative 5-1 Spkrs New: Case: Thermaltake Sonata Old: DVD RW: NEC 3500a Old: Maxtor, Dmax 10, 200GB Ultra ATA & Maxto,r Dmax 9,120GB ATA MY Budget is £300

18th Apr 2006, 04:30 AM	#2 (permalink)
1031982 Super Active Join Date: 25 Feb 2003 Location: USA Posts: 1,580 Reputation: 285 Rep Power: 9	Well, I would recommend getting a different mobo with PCI-E and a new video card. If you are going to do gaming, that's the next thing you want. I never heard of Hiper. Are they known in your aria? If not, I would say get a better brand like Sparkle, Enermax, or Antec. The rest of that looks good. __________________ Running : Gigabyte EP45-DS3R, Intel E7200 C2D, 2GB DDR2 Dual Channel, WD Raptor 74GB, WD 500 GB HDD, ASUS 16X DVD-ROM, LiteOn 16X DVD+/-RW, 1.44 MB Floppy, ATI Radeon HD 3450, Dell 2005FPW, and a SB Audigy2 ZS PRO with Logitech Z5300e speakers.

18th Apr 2006, 07:24 AM	#3 (permalink)
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20th Apr 2006, 02:22 AM	#5 (permalink)
werty316 Active Join Date: 3 Mar 2005 Posts: 642 Reputation: 138 Rep Power: 5	I would also suggest a different board that has PCI-E and to go along with it a 7600GT/X1800GTO is the bare minimum to get some decent gaming or a 7900GT. If you have a budget then the ASRock should be good enough. YOu could also wait for Vista to be released so you can get your hands on a DX10 video card or get a older card as they should be down in price by the time DX10 cards are out. __________________ Guns don't kill people, Chuck Norris kills people!

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21st Apr 2006, 07:35 AM	#8 (permalink)
wannabgeek Newbie Join Date: 17 Apr 2006 Posts: 3 Reputation: 0 Rep Power: 0	Hi Guys thanks for your help! My mobo is a pci e (and AGP) i have just purchased this so thats a bit of a bummer to start! What about a CPU any clues here? My PC at present: XP Home MESH-P4 2.53ghz Asus P4S8X Nanya: 2x256 pc2700 + 1x512 pc3200 Maxtor 200gb& Maxtor120gb ATX case 350 psu (Mesh) Nvidia 6800 LE (OC'd) Audigy 2/5-1 sound Nec 3500a CD/DVD/RW Panasonic LF-D311 Ram/R Mitsubishi 19" Blck Diamond

21st Apr 2006, 09:56 PM	#9 (permalink)
Chai Administrator Join Date: 6 Oct 2002 Location: Maranello Posts: 26,662 Reputation: 3984 Rep Power: 72	Which mobo is PCIe and AGP? __________________ Chai (Contributor & Forum Admin) http://www.techarp.com/

23rd Apr 2006, 01:36 AM	#10 (permalink)
vfrex Newbie Join Date: 23 Apr 2006 Posts: 1 Reputation: 0 Rep Power: 0	I intepreted that as he already purchased the ASROCK board. Assuming I am right...wannabgeek, I wouldn't be too disappointed with your purchase. A huge number of people go with it. I just built my friend a system with it a month or two back, because he wasn't ready to upgrade from his Radeon 9800 pro yet. You should realize that the AGP slot will not perform at the full speed of AGP slots on other boards. I think you will face something like a 5% performance hit. Also, I'm certainly not an expert by any means on performance builds, but is it really critical to get the corsair XMS? What about downgrading to Corsair ValueRam? That would save you a bit, and maybe allow you to get a better processor (or start you down the road to a PCI-E video card).

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