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1031982 · 23rd Mar 2008, 12:22 PM

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Originally Posted by SkylineRemix

I need HELP!! to create partition.... Someone.... guide me...!!! please.... *_*

What operating system are you using?

Max_87 · 23rd Mar 2008, 12:42 PM

You can do the partitioning and formatting in windows. Go control panel > administrative tools > computer management > disk management.

Select your new hard drive, create partitions, then format.

SkylineRemix · 23rd Mar 2008, 01:16 PM

what is allocation unit size? They seem to give me something like: Default, 512, 1024,... ..., 32k, 64k... what does that mean?

1031982 · 23rd Mar 2008, 02:24 PM

It's how the space is organized and used by files. Using default is usually the best option for beginners, and honestly it tends to be the best option in most situations anyway.
IE : If the allocation of the partition is 4K, then a file between 1 byte and 4K will use the same amount of space on the disk. If a file is larger, then it uses the next cluster until it reaches the proper amount. Best space conservation is the smallest size. If you use bigger files a lot, then a larger allocation size will offer less fragmentation and can offer some minor performance boosts.

SkylineRemix · 23rd Mar 2008, 08:25 PM

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Originally Posted by 1031982

What operating system are you using?

i'll be using XP on 250GB and the other 500GB for Vista. Now i'm dealing with 500GB.

Quote:

Originally Posted by 1031982

It's how the space is organized and used by files. Using default is usually the best option for beginners, and honestly it tends to be the best option in most situations anyway.
IE : If the allocation of the partition is 4K, then a file between 1 byte and 4K will use the same amount of space on the disk. If a file is larger, then it uses the next cluster until it reaches the proper amount. Best space conservation is the smallest size. If you use bigger files a lot, then a larger allocation size will offer less fragmentation and can offer some minor performance boosts.

4k is 4000 bytes right?
a bit blurred actually...
I heard of this Software called Partition Magic. Does it help much?

SkylineRemix · 23rd Mar 2008, 09:26 PM

One more question:

I just check my Disk Management just now... and erm... the 250GB Harddisk is known as Basic while the 500GB is known as Dynamic... what's the difference between Basic and Dynamic? (Oh... btw, windows is in C Drive which is the 250GB)

1031982 · 23rd Mar 2008, 10:09 PM

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Originally Posted by SkylineRemix

4k is 4000 bytes right?
a bit blurred actually...
I heard of this Software called Partition Magic. Does it help much?

Big math thing, I still think it's weird. You ever wonder why when you format a drive or disk that it's not the same size as advertised? This is why. It was decided to do things in in 2's a while ago, so space is allocated out in 2 ways. 1, the physical way, counts things exact where 1k is equal to 1000 bytes. The virtual way counts 1k as 1024 bytes. Always like that.
Partition Magic is only worth it if you want to change a partition without havening to completely delete and remake it.
Basic is just that, basic. Dynamic, well, here is a paste from the help file. "Dynamic disks provide features that basic disks do not, such as the ability to create volumes that span multiple disks (spanned and striped volumes), and the ability to create fault tolerant volumes (mirrored and RAID-5 volumes). All volumes on dynamic disks are known as dynamic volumes."

Adrian Wong · 23rd Mar 2008, 10:54 PM

Use Basic unless you need to create RAID-type of arrays.

SkylineRemix · 25th Mar 2008, 12:51 AM

Partition done... with some help from one of my friend.

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Originally Posted by Adrian Wong

Use Basic unless you need to create RAID-type of arrays.

So in my case, i should set both to basic? Especially the 500GB one which is currently Dynamic.

Adrian Wong · 25th Mar 2008, 09:36 PM

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Originally Posted by SkylineRemix

Partition done... with some help from one of my friend.

So in my case, i should set both to basic? Especially the 500GB one which is currently Dynamic.

Well, if you have no data in there, sure.

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23rd Mar 2008, 01:16 PM	#33 (permalink)
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23rd Mar 2008, 02:24 PM	#34 (permalink)
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23rd Mar 2008, 09:26 PM	#36 (permalink)
SkylineRemix Getting there Join Date: 27 Nov 2006 Posts: 225 Reputation: 43 Rep Power: 2	One more question: I just check my Disk Management just now... and erm... the 250GB Harddisk is known as Basic while the 500GB is known as Dynamic... what's the difference between Basic and Dynamic? (Oh... btw, windows is in C Drive which is the 250GB) __________________ My System: Processor: Intel Core 2 Duo E4300 Motherboard: Asus P5NE-SLI CPU Cooler: Zalman CNPS 9500A Graphic Card: Asus EN7600GT 256MB RAM: Cosair 1GB DDR II 667 (x2) Harddisk: Seagate 250GB HDD 16MB, Western Digital 500GB HDD 16MB Monitor: Samsung 932B Plus Optical Drive: Asus 18x DVD-RW, Samsung 20x DVD-RW PSU: Enermax FMA II 460 Watts Speakers: Sonic Gear Spectra 200

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