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Old 21st May 2008, 08:24 PM   #1 (permalink)
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Question Memory Limits

HI.
Is there any idea on how to edit the Max Limit of my PC's Bios?
and
Is there any way to edit the AGP Bus (My Mobo has AGP 4x support)
also
Is there also any way to configure the FSB Thru BIOS editing?
(Using Phoenix BIOS)
If so what software will i use?
Phoenix BIOS editor?
or
Hex editor (Like XVI32)?
Thanks

My PC's BIOS
BIOS Date: 03/19/02
BIOS Type: PhoenixBIOS 4.0 Release 6.0 00RS
BIOS ID: BIOS Version: 6.00 00RS
OEM Sign-On: None
Chipset: Intel 1130 rev 4
Superio: NSC 366 rev 10 found at port 2Eh
OS: WinXP SP2
CPU: Intel¦ Pentium¦ I 1000 Mhz MAX: 1500 Mhz
BIOS ROM In Socket: No
BIOS ROM Size: 512K
Memory Installed: 256 MB My computer is so slow!?!?
Memory Maximum: 512 MB
Memory Slot 01: 128 MB
Memory Slot 02: 128 MB
ACPI Revision: Unknown





AND LAST THING
Can i upgrade my Processor From Pentium 3 to Pentium 4 using an P3 Board?
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Can i upgrade my Processor From Pentium 3 to Pentium 4 using an P3 Board?
if it the same socket AND ur mobo does support it, yes.

Is there any way to edit the AGP Bus
No?

i can`t answer the other questtion, coz i don`t get it
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Can i upgrade my Processor From Pentium 3 to Pentium 4 using an P3 Board?
if it the same socket AND ur mobo does support it, yes.

Is there any way to edit the AGP Bus
No?

i can`t answer the other questtion, coz i don`t get it
AGP BUS like this
My computers AGP bus supports 1x 2x and 4x but my vid. card suports 2x 4x and 8x. So how can i modify it like turning the limit to AGP 2x 4x 8x ?
and one thing
The Memory limit! is there any way to increase the limit?
My RAM limit is 512MB. IF theres any way how to modify it what tool or software will i use? Because I'm using Phoenix BIOS from my PC is it Phoenix BIOS Editor or Hex editing programs.
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AGP BUS like this
My computers AGP bus supports 1x 2x and 4x but my vid. card suports 2x 4x and 8x. So how can i modify it like turning the limit to AGP 2x 4x 8x ?
and one thing
The Memory limit! is there any way to increase the limit?
My RAM limit is 512MB. IF theres any way how to modify it what tool or software will i use? Because I'm using Phoenix BIOS from my PC is it Phoenix BIOS Editor or Hex editing programs.
Thanks
Your card will automatically uses the highest AGP speed that your motherboard supports. That means AGP 4X in your case.

If I'm not mistaken, the memory limit was based on RAM density at the time the BIOS was created. If you have higher capacity SDRAM modules, you should have no problem using them to increase the amount of RAM in your system.
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Your card will automatically uses the highest AGP speed that your motherboard supports. That means AGP 4X in your case.

If I'm not mistaken, the memory limit was based on RAM density at the time the BIOS was created. If you have higher capacity SDRAM modules, you should have no problem using them to increase the amount of RAM in your system.
so, there is no memory limit for one slot, especially for notebook motherboard? can add 1 GB, 2 GB or even 4 GB ?
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so, there is no memory limit for one slot, especially for notebook motherboard? can add 1 GB, 2 GB or even 4 GB ?
There are chipset limitations. You have to check the specifications of the chipset to be sure. However, the chipset usually supports more memory than what most users will install.
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There are chipset limitations. You have to check the specifications of the chipset to be sure. However, the chipset usually supports more memory than what most users will install.
ah I see, mine is i945GM, should be able to hold total 4GB
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On the AGP max as Adrian mentioned that is determined my your motherboard.

On the memory I may have learned something from Adrian here and it makes sense to me. If we can upgrade BIOS to include newer CPU's why can't we to include more memory than the original BIOS version was set for? The slots(sockets) are physically and electronically the same in most cases.

On raising the FSB you are getting into pin mods which I am working on right now for this Celeron Northwood. Two pin mods raise the FSB from 400 to 533Mhz and also the Vcore from 1.5 to 1.65V. Still working on that as I have time my 478 mobo for that may have to be changed. As for this and the AGP this is not something that can be soft modded or changed in BIOS.

Hope this helps Marty and cheers on the PM feel free to contact me anytime. I don't have all the answers but I try
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HI.
Is there any idea on how to edit the Max Limit of my PC's Bios?
and
Is there any way to edit the AGP Bus (My Mobo has AGP 4x support)
also
Is there also any way to configure the FSB Thru BIOS editing?
(Using Phoenix BIOS)
If so what software will i use?
Phoenix BIOS editor?
or
Hex editor (Like XVI32)?
Thanks

My PC's BIOS
BIOS Date: 03/19/02
BIOS Type: PhoenixBIOS 4.0 Release 6.0 00RS
BIOS ID: BIOS Version: 6.00 00RS
OEM Sign-On: None
Chipset: Intel 1130 rev 4
Superio: NSC 366 rev 10 found at port 2Eh
OS: WinXP SP2
CPU: Intel¦ Pentium¦ I 1000 Mhz MAX: 1500 Mhz
BIOS ROM In Socket: No
BIOS ROM Size: 512K
Memory Installed: 256 MB My computer is so slow!?!?
Memory Maximum: 512 MB
Memory Slot 01: 128 MB
Memory Slot 02: 128 MB
ACPI Revision: Unknown





AND LAST THING
Can i upgrade my Processor From Pentium 3 to Pentium 4 using an P3 Board?
To answer your questions and I'm not trying to be a balloon popper here but to Edit your bios you will most likely need to acquire an eprom reader. Back then there was no such thing like we know now a flashing your bios.

Secondly it would do you no good and heres the reasons why.

1) The Pentium III was last based on the Socket 370 , Pentium 4 were changed to Socket 423 when first released, Later to Socket 478, then to what we know now as LGA 775. So no upgrade options there.

2) The Intel 815 chipset that you board uses can only use a maximum of 512 ram, that is a limitation within the chipset itself, sadly theres no way to get around it.

3) As the others have stated you may can use an AGP 8X card in there but it will only work in AGP 4x mode at best. But please consider this AGP 4x used 1.5v signaling, the newer AGP 8x uses 0.8v signaling. So to put an 8X card into a 4X slot may cause damage to the card or it may not work at all.

Sorry to have said all that, I know you are trying your best to upgrade your computer and I'd like to see you do so. But based on what you have there really isnt a way to feasibly do it.
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I was flashing BIOS even back in the P2 days. Probably earlier, can't remember exactly.
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