Computer Die again. Suspected the Hardisk.

[alyy8128]

Originally Posted by DarKSeeD

Hiren's BootCD 9.5 could be a way to check the drive. Use any HDD utility from the disk to check the HDD. What kind of hdd do you have and how old it is?

There are quite a number of Hardisk Recovery Technique on Hiren's website. Maybe i'll get them a try on my old hardisk.

[Orpheous]

Ok, looks like you either have a bad/corrupted Windows installation, or perhaps a dead/dying hard drive...
You can try and do a repair installation of Windows, over the top of your existing Windows. Your settings and system files will be back to the way they were when you first got it. If you have malware, adware, viruses etc. the effects will be removed, but the problem won't. (we'll get to that later)

If you connect directly to the internet without a router or hardware firewall, disconnect from the internet by physically removing the connections cable, removing a wireless card, or any other means of internet connection.

Enter your BIOS, change the boot order to CD Drive 1st,
insert your XP disc, reboot.

# When you see the "Welcome To Setup" screen, you will see the options below

This portion of the Setup program prepares Microsoft
Windows XP to run on your computer:

To setup Windows XP now, press ENTER.

To repair a Windows XP installation using Recovery Console, press R.

To quit Setup without installing Windows XP, press F3.

# Press Enter to start the Windows Setup.

To setup Windows XP now and Repair Install , press ENTER. DO NOT choose "To repair a Windows XP installation using the Recovery Console, press R", (you DO NOT want to load Recovery Console). I repeat, DO NOT choose "To repair a Windows XP installation using the Recovery Console, press R".
(DO NOT PRESS "R")

Accept the License Agreement and Windows will search for existing Windows installations.

Select the XP installation you want to repair from the list and press R to start the repair. If Repair is not one of the options, END setup.

Setup will copy the necessary files to the hard drive and reboot. Do not press any key to boot from CD when the message appears. Setup will continue as if it were doing a clean install, but your applications and settings will remain intact.

You can read this more in depth article here:
How to Perform a Windows XP Repair Install


Give it a try, it seems like you have nothing to lose!

[DarKSeeD]

Originally Posted by alyy8128

It is 3-5 years old Seagate 40GB Hardisk. Its mean i need to use Seatools to check it?

Will those HDD utility recover the files inside?

Yes, you can use Seatools to check it.

I've managed to recover a hdd a few weeks ago with this utility - File Recover - File Recovery, Restore deleted files
It was a 40GB Maxtor drive and it had the simptoms you described. I've managed to recover all the files including deleted files! But it took several hours to complete. First it does a complete scan and after that you can save to another drive the found files. Good luck!

[alyy8128]

Originally Posted by Orpheous

Ok, looks like you either have a bad/corrupted Windows installation, or perhaps a dead/dying hard drive...
You can try and do a repair installation of Windows, over the top of your existing Windows. Your settings and system files will be back to the way they were when you first got it. If you have malware, adware, viruses etc. the effects will be removed, but the problem won't. (we'll get to that later)

If you connect directly to the internet without a router or hardware firewall, disconnect from the internet by physically removing the connections cable, removing a wireless card, or any other means of internet connection.

Enter your BIOS, change the boot order to CD Drive 1st,
insert your XP disc, reboot.

# When you see the "Welcome To Setup" screen, you will see the options below

This portion of the Setup program prepares Microsoft
Windows XP to run on your computer:

To setup Windows XP now, press ENTER.

To repair a Windows XP installation using Recovery Console, press R.

To quit Setup without installing Windows XP, press F3.

# Press Enter to start the Windows Setup.

To setup Windows XP now and Repair Install , press ENTER. DO NOT choose "To repair a Windows XP installation using the Recovery Console, press R", (you DO NOT want to load Recovery Console). I repeat, DO NOT choose "To repair a Windows XP installation using the Recovery Console, press R".
(DO NOT PRESS "R")

Accept the License Agreement and Windows will search for existing Windows installations.

Select the XP installation you want to repair from the list and press R to start the repair. If Repair is not one of the options, END setup.

Setup will copy the necessary files to the hard drive and reboot. Do not press any key to boot from CD when the message appears. Setup will continue as if it were doing a clean install, but your applications and settings will remain intact.

You can read this more in depth article here:
How to Perform a Windows XP Repair Install


Give it a try, it seems like you have nothing to lose!

Thanks. I'll note down these procedures. I had been to the "Recovery Console" before read your instruction. But really donno what to do there. I though the Windows Repair function is totally useless. SO, next time i'll try your method.

Originally Posted by DarKSeeD

Yes, you can use Seatools to check it.

I've managed to recover a hdd a few weeks ago with this utility - File Recover - File Recovery, Restore deleted files
It was a 40GB Maxtor drive and it had the simptoms you described. I've managed to recover all the files including deleted files! But it took several hours to complete. First it does a complete scan and after that you can save to another drive the found files. Good luck!

Thanks for the tips, I'll try IF my computer can detect that HD again. I'd just installed a new windows on my other Hardisk.

[Adrian Wong]

Hmm.. Could be a corrupted Master Boot Record. Have you tried booting into the repair console and using the FixMBR option?

[alyy8128]

Nope. I don't understand what is the purpose of the "Recovery Console" and how to use it? It is just a blank black screen with very less DOS command to use. Unable to access C:\ from there also.

[Adrian Wong]

Originally Posted by alyy8128

Nope. I don't understand what is the purpose of the "Recovery Console" and how to use it? It is just a blank black screen with very less DOS command to use. Unable to access C:\ from there also.

Just type help! You will get a list of available commands.

You should try chkdsk to see if there's anything wrong with the drive. You can try fixmbr and fixboot too.

[alyy8128]

OK. Let me summarise the even of computer crashing event during this few months.

1. My old 40GB IDE HDD die.

2. I purchase 2 500GB Seagate SATA HDD.

3. The new HDD perform well for few weeks, until suddenly the WinXP cannot detect the network.(After 2 days of no switch on) Have to format to solve it.

4. After 1 week of using with 2 days resting (No switch on), the WinXP crashed. Have to format again, by booting using 250GB IDE secondary HDD, and format the RAW file system of 500GB primary HDD.

5. After another 1 week of using it. Suddenly Blue Screen of Death appear for few times. Then, the computer cannot switch on with only black screen, no even counting the RAM. Have to unplug the SATA HDD to switch on using secondary 250GB IDE HDD.

6. Surprising cannot boot as well. stuck somewhere after counting the RAM. I wish to put in the WinXP installation CD into my primary SATA DVD drive also cannot. The DVD drive tray doesn't come out, and keep flashing the LED. I have to unpluged that drive and install the WinXP using secondary DVD IDE drive. Very surprise that after insallation, my 500GB HDD is back alive without I done anything on it. I just plug back the SATA cable on it.

Now i suspect the culprit may be the SATA DVD drive. But I had using for few weeks with all my 4 drives attached together. Really can't figure out who cause my computer crash all the time.

[Adrian Wong]

Originally Posted by alyy8128

OK. Let me summarise the even of computer crashing event during this few months.

1. My old 40GB IDE HDD die.

2. I purchase 2 500GB Seagate SATA HDD.

3. The new HDD perform well for few weeks, until suddenly the WinXP cannot detect the network.(After 2 days of no switch on) Have to format to solve it.

4. After 1 week of using with 2 days resting (No switch on), the WinXP crashed. Have to format again, by booting using 250GB IDE secondary HDD, and format the RAW file system of 500GB primary HDD.

5. After another 1 week of using it. Suddenly Blue Screen of Death appear for few times. Then, the computer cannot switch on with only black screen, no even counting the RAM. Have to unplug the SATA HDD to switch on using secondary 250GB IDE HDD.

6. Surprising cannot boot as well. stuck somewhere after counting the RAM. I wish to put in the WinXP installation CD into my primary SATA DVD drive also cannot. The DVD drive tray doesn't come out, and keep flashing the LED. I have to unpluged that drive and install the WinXP using secondary DVD IDE drive. Very surprise that after insallation, my 500GB HDD is back alive without I done anything on it. I just plug back the SATA cable on it.

Now i suspect the culprit may be the SATA DVD drive. But I had using for few weeks with all my 4 drives attached together. Really can't figure out who cause my computer crash all the time.

Hmm.. If I were you, I would take a HARD LOOK at your motherboard. I don't think it's your hard disk drives...

[alyy8128]

Maybe your are right. It is a 2 times claimed back (replaced) motherboard. Later test again the computer and see whether the problem is really caused by that motherboard.