Sidewinder Force feedback Wheel for W2k or XP - Page 2

goldfries · 16th Apr 2003, 10:30 PM

hrnrmrmr........so the Sidewinder FFW from MS doesn't work, but the Logitech Wheel works?

peaz · 17th Apr 2003, 11:17 AM

hmm baffliing... i think it's a drivers issue.

lung · 17th Apr 2003, 03:23 PM

Maybe u want to consider upgrading to WinXP?

goldfries · 17th Apr 2003, 03:28 PM

it'll be really weird if logitech works and MS just won't work on it's own OS. a good laugh in fact.

Pc_Maniax · 21st Apr 2003, 05:08 PM

Thx again guys, well, in fact maybe there's a problem in the hardware drivers...but that dont explains the fact that i have made a dowload from the recent drivers for the SFF and he still doesent work....i dont want to upgrade to XP .... i have so much job to put W2K as i want it...that i just dont know what in the hell is going on up in here?

And w2k never give me a problem...but if i have indeed to install XP what can i do?? i never liked XP dont know why!!! it doesnt appeals me.

peaz · 22nd Apr 2003, 09:56 AM

recent drivers???? did u download SFF2's drivers instead? that i think wont' work.... u need the SSF1 drivers. microsoft's main download site only have SSF1's driver IF i'm not mistaken...

not too sure. i'll try to find the right drivers and see

Chai · 22nd Apr 2003, 10:50 AM

Yup, Gameport devices and USB devices use 2 different drivers. And I'm afraid to say that no more gameport devices support...

Pc_Maniax · 22nd Apr 2003, 07:40 PM

I know there is 2 types of drivers, there are the new USB drivers fot the new ffwheel...and there is drivers fot the soundcard port...i think the drivers that i have downloade was the correct ones...but peaz if you find the drivers for the FFW on the soundcard port for w2k tell me....im trying to find them too.

goldfries · 23rd Apr 2003, 10:00 AM

odd how my joystick is much older than yours and it's supporter.

maybe cos i select 2 axis 2 button joystick.

Reaper · 28th Apr 2003, 05:26 PM

i faced similar problem with my old Saitek R4 FFW. A few weeks back, I tried to plug it into my SBLive!'s gameport and it didn't recognise the wheel. The wheel was meant for Win 95, 98...now i'm running WinXP. So i visited the company's website for the latest drivers for XP but they've stopped the development for the new drivers.

I almost parted with my RM600 FFW wheel for a new one.

But fortunately, it turned out that the Saitek wheel has almost the same electronics as the MS Sidewinder. I've took apart my wheel, examined the PCB and found 3 places for jumpers with only one connected. Interesting, isn't it?

After removing the SMD shortcut on position J3, (Desolder J3 which is the surface-mounted link resistor) the wheel was recognised as an MS Sidewinder wheel.
It will look like [000] the triple 000 means zero ohms.

If you don't know how to desolder properly please make sure you get someone who can. Too much heat can and most probably will lift printed tracks from the board! Not to mention it is pretty tiny to be handled carefully. You wouldn't want to destroy your precious wheel.

Once the link is removed. Put it all back together and plug it in. Goto game controllers in winxp and add SideWinder (AutoDetect) and viola!
It should work the same in Win2K.

Calibrate it properly and have some fun! Personally I modded it for Need for speed : Hot Pursuit 2 and i'm having a great time here...

THIS MOD DOES WORK IN WINDOWS XP!
even the force-feedback works flawlessly.
Needless to say my wheel works fine since (under win2k as well).
This hardware modding is an alternative to software drivers unless you really know what you are doing.

Pc_Maniax: Examine the circuit board 1st before you do anything else. See whether if it looks the same as the picture attached. Different make might differ from each other but the technology is the same. (Saitek made the R4 under a license from MS for the FF technology). Just give it a try. You've got nothing to lose anyway.

16th Apr 2003, 10:30 PM	#11 (permalink)
goldfries www.goldfries.com Join Date: 22 Jan 2003 Location: KL/PJ Malaysia Posts: 7,953 Reputation: 539 Rep Power: 19	hrnrmrmr........so the Sidewinder FFW from MS doesn't work, but the Logitech Wheel works? __________________ no computer specs \| no photography gear list \| no userbars \| no quotes

17th Apr 2003, 11:17 AM	#12 (permalink)
peaz ARP Webmaster Join Date: 13 Oct 2002 Location: http://atpeaz.placidthoughts.com/ Posts: 8,584 Reputation: 1673 Rep Power: 32	hmm baffliing... i think it's a drivers issue. __________________ Ken Ng Tech ARP Follow me at Twitter Shoot and Earn Money from Stock Photography

17th Apr 2003, 03:28 PM	#14 (permalink)
goldfries www.goldfries.com Join Date: 22 Jan 2003 Location: KL/PJ Malaysia Posts: 7,953 Reputation: 539 Rep Power: 19	it'll be really weird if logitech works and MS just won't work on it's own OS. a good laugh in fact. __________________ no computer specs \| no photography gear list \| no userbars \| no quotes

21st Apr 2003, 05:08 PM	#15 (permalink)
Pc_Maniax Newbie Join Date: 4 Apr 2003 Posts: 12 Reputation: 0 Rep Power: 0	Microsoft FFW Thx again guys, well, in fact maybe there's a problem in the hardware drivers...but that dont explains the fact that i have made a dowload from the recent drivers for the SFF and he still doesent work....i dont want to upgrade to XP .... i have so much job to put W2K as i want it...that i just dont know what in the hell is going on up in here? And w2k never give me a problem...but if i have indeed to install XP what can i do?? i never liked XP dont know why!!! it doesnt appeals me.

22nd Apr 2003, 09:56 AM	#16 (permalink)
peaz ARP Webmaster Join Date: 13 Oct 2002 Location: http://atpeaz.placidthoughts.com/ Posts: 8,584 Reputation: 1673 Rep Power: 32	recent drivers???? did u download SFF2's drivers instead? that i think wont' work.... u need the SSF1 drivers. microsoft's main download site only have SSF1's driver IF i'm not mistaken... not too sure. i'll try to find the right drivers and see __________________ Ken Ng Tech ARP Follow me at Twitter Shoot and Earn Money from Stock Photography

17th Apr 2003, 03:23 PM	#13 (permalink)
lung Super Active Join Date: 4 Apr 2003 Location: Malaysia Posts: 1,533 Reputation: 26 Rep Power: 8	Maybe u want to consider upgrading to WinXP?

22nd Apr 2003, 10:50 AM	#17 (permalink)
Chai Administrator Join Date: 6 Oct 2002 Location: Maranello Posts: 27,884 Reputation: 4630 Rep Power: 81	Yup, Gameport devices and USB devices use 2 different drivers. And I'm afraid to say that no more gameport devices support... __________________ Chai (Contributor & Forum Admin) http://www.techarp.com/

22nd Apr 2003, 07:40 PM	#18 (permalink)
Pc_Maniax Newbie Join Date: 4 Apr 2003 Posts: 12 Reputation: 0 Rep Power: 0	FFW Drivers I know there is 2 types of drivers, there are the new USB drivers fot the new ffwheel...and there is drivers fot the soundcard port...i think the drivers that i have downloade was the correct ones...but peaz if you find the drivers for the FFW on the soundcard port for w2k tell me....im trying to find them too.

23rd Apr 2003, 10:00 AM	#19 (permalink)
goldfries www.goldfries.com Join Date: 22 Jan 2003 Location: KL/PJ Malaysia Posts: 7,953 Reputation: 539 Rep Power: 19	odd how my joystick is much older than yours and it's supporter. maybe cos i select 2 axis 2 button joystick. __________________ no computer specs \| no photography gear list \| no userbars \| no quotes