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Old 1st Dec 2004, 10:11 AM   #201 (permalink)
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Wait wait...no need to go that far. I'm talking about DirectX games now. Is there any choice for us consumers? Developers decide to use DirectX is their choice, not ours. If I want to play DirectX games on other OSes, is that possible? Do I have a choice?
I'm not doubting that MS has a monopoly on DirectX. They do. Exactly, which GL (if any) developers choose to support is THEIR choice. No argument there.
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Then the choice, very obviously is NOT in the consumer's hands.
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When did I say you did ?
Neither did I? Please, this is going no where.

That has already proved my point that Microsoft do have monopoly in the DirectX gaming sector, and if you want to play DirectX games, there's no other OSes other than Microsoft. That's it from me.
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Neither did I? Please, this is going no where.
So why ask me when you said something if you're not implying that I said you said it ?

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That has already proved my point that Microsoft do have monopoly in the DirectX gaming sector, and if you want to play DirectX games, there's no other OSes other than Microsoft. That's it from me.
Well you might as well say that OpenGL has a monopoly in the OpenGL gaming sector, but whatever If you make something, it belongs to you. I suppose if you want to say you "monopolize" what you make, then I guess you can (it's a strange way of saying "I own what I make myself", but I guess it's not entirely inaccurate.)

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Well you might as well say that OpenGL has a monopoly in the OpenGL gaming sector, but whatever
Is that even a market? Its part of a market. Used in gaming and software.

http://www.opengl.org/applications/
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opengl have monopoly on OGL games??? that's like saying trees own oxygen since they produce them.

pengsan saya (me faints)

as for whether OGL or DX, it's pretty simple which path a developer wants to use. programming games on DX is a lot faster and easier compared to OGL due to all the hard wok M$ did to provide all the tools and APIs to help developers. of course OGL have their advantages too but DX9 have pretty much caught up with OGL's API capabilities and standards

hmm this thread seems to go nowhere at all, IMHO.

My take? The pricing structure is just way off here in Asia. our earning power is just not as strong as the US guys. that's basically it.
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opengl have monopoly on OGL games??? that's like saying trees own oxygen since they produce them.

pengsan saya (me faints)
Actually.. if trees were human, they would own the oxygen they produce
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Is that even a market? Its part of a market. Used in gaming and software.

http://www.opengl.org/applications/
Knock yourself out.
Is what even a market ? the games are a market. OpenGL is a graphics library.
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Actually.. if trees were human, they would own the oxygen they produce
This thread is going nowhere but showing off wodenus unabliltyto have a mature discussion, I voted the thread to be lock down....and also to point out the thread is about pirated software discussion not about the definition of MONOPOLY!!!!

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