Defragmenters! Which do you recommend? - Page 11

starboykb · 15th Oct 2008, 08:54 AM

you can try smart defrag, it runs on the startup and defrag slowly when idle.

slash · 17th Oct 2008, 11:48 PM

i use o&o defrag

Zenphic · 18th Oct 2008, 10:38 AM

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Originally Posted by lee_what2004

what you guys use for jk, the action?
analyze and defragment, analyze and fast optimization or other settings?

I do what the author recommended. Sort by name (-a 7) on the first defrag and maybe once every two months. Then, once a week fast optimization (-a 3)

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What is the best defragmentation/optimization strategy for me?
My advice for all computers is to run JkDefrag once with the "-a 7" optimization (sort by name), and from then on automatically every day with the default "-a 3" fast-optimize option.
Note: The "-a 9" optimization (sort by last access time) only works as expected if you do not use programs that scan all files on disk (such as virus scanners and backup programs), causing Windows to update all the last access times.

mikegas · 18th Oct 2008, 03:13 PM

Never defrag drive too .. lol ...

Midicow · 19th Oct 2008, 02:43 PM

I used JkDefrag, JkDefrag v3.36

lee_what2004 · 20th Oct 2008, 03:09 AM

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Originally Posted by Zenphic

I do what the author recommended. Sort by name (-a 7) on the first defrag and maybe once every two months. Then, once a week fast optimization (-a 3)

Ah I see, will do so

Zenphic · 21st Oct 2008, 08:30 AM

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Originally Posted by lee_what2004

Ah I see, will do so

Seems to work fine for me.

Other tips I might add is rebooting your PC before a defrag (so that there's a minimum of locked files because they are in use) and disabling your antivirus if you have one, as that increase defrag time since the antivirus will scan most stuff the defragger moves.

Stargazer2112 · 24th Oct 2008, 10:33 PM

Allmost anything it's better than Windows built in stuff, as usual. JK Defrag it's good, I used it for sometime, but nowadays I use a freeware from my land ( Brazil ): MVDefrag, made by Marcos Velasco ( Google him to find the site ), it's very good, not only defragment files and directories, but optimizes startup executables and dlls, putting them all together. It's only handycap it's the lack of information during the process, specially a disk map showing what's going on ( I'm a control freak, I NEED these things so bad ) and some better technical explanation - I have to figure it all myself, nevertheless it's very good and free.

Ischemia24 · 25th Oct 2008, 05:15 AM

I've pretty much always used XP's built in Defrag. As far as I know it won't move the paging file, and maybe some other system files. I figure having a fragmented paging file isn't a big deal if you have enough RAM (2 GB or more in XP) -- any thoughts on this?
What defrag programs are capable of optimizing absolutely all files on the hard drive? Are any of them free?

Rotarizer · 6th Nov 2008, 08:27 PM

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Originally Posted by Ischemia24

I've pretty much always used XP's built in Defrag. As far as I know it won't move the paging file, and maybe some other system files. I figure having a fragmented paging file isn't a big deal if you have enough RAM (2 GB or more in XP) -- any thoughts on this?
What defrag programs are capable of optimizing absolutely all files on the hard drive? Are any of them free?

The 'additional' problem with a fragmented paging file, or fragmented MFT for that matter, is that since they are un-movable by the default XP defragger, they can cause fragmentation of free space and other files that are being expanded. And since the XP defragger cannot move the MFT/PF, if they fragment the free space, there will often be insufficient contiguous free space for defragmenting other (otherwise defragmentable) fragmented files.

I use the excellent Diskeeper 2008 Pro on XP, and have rarely felt the need to defrag the MFT by a boot-time defrag since Diskeeper defrags it when it's running normally. Only for the page file do you need a boot-time DK defrag, and that too very occasionally, if there is enough contiguous free space. (Otherwise set the PF on static custom size, or in a separate partition).

Sorry, I know not of any free utility for defragging -all- the files.

View Poll Results: Which Disk Degragmenter?
Windows Built-In	18	31.03%
Diskeeper	16	27.59%
PerfectDisk	8	13.79%
SpeedDisk	1	1.72%
Others	9	15.52%
dont defrag	7	12.07%
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Ischemia24 Just Started Join Date: 11 Oct 2008 Location: Indianapolis Posts: 42 Reputation: 104 Rep Power: 0	Windows Defrag I've pretty much always used XP's built in Defrag. As far as I know it won't move the paging file, and maybe some other system files. I figure having a fragmented paging file isn't a big deal if you have enough RAM (2 GB or more in XP) -- any thoughts on this? What defrag programs are capable of optimizing absolutely all files on the hard drive? Are any of them free?

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starboykb Warming up Join Date: 6 Oct 2008 Location: Brunei earth Posts: 126 Reputation: 0 Rep Power: 1	you can try smart defrag, it runs on the startup and defrag slowly when idle.

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mikegas I'm a regular Join Date: 7 May 2008 Posts: 380 Reputation: 206 Rep Power: 3	Never defrag drive too .. lol ...

24th Oct 2008, 10:33 PM	#108 (permalink)
Stargazer2112 Newbie Join Date: 21 Oct 2008 Posts: 3 Reputation: 0 Rep Power: 0	Allmost anything it's better than Windows built in stuff, as usual. JK Defrag it's good, I used it for sometime, but nowadays I use a freeware from my land ( Brazil ): MVDefrag, made by Marcos Velasco ( Google him to find the site ), it's very good, not only defragment files and directories, but optimizes startup executables and dlls, putting them all together. It's only handycap it's the lack of information during the process, specially a disk map showing what's going on ( I'm a control freak, I NEED these things so bad ) and some better technical explanation - I have to figure it all myself, nevertheless it's very good and free.