Defragmenters! Which do you recommend? - Page 7

ChampionLLY · 7th Apr 2008, 07:49 PM

SSD era, death for defraggers?

Adrian Wong · 8th Apr 2008, 06:52 PM

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Originally Posted by Zenphic

The problem with defragging was for older hard drives I think. Defragging all the time would cause some over-use of the platters and the head, and would cause some strain on it.

Meh, I don't know. Defragging used to lag my older PC as well (~2000)

Well, the platters are spinning all the time... Head overuse may be a problem but only if you defrag very often, like several times a day.

If you only defrag a few times a month.. or even once a month, this is unlikely to be a problem. Unless you overdo it, the benefits of defragging a hard drive far outweigh any potential reduction in HDD lifespan.

Adrian Wong · 8th Apr 2008, 06:52 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by ChampionLLY

SSD era, death for defraggers?

Hehe.. Yeah, but it will be quite sometime before solid state drives become common.

Max_87 · 8th Apr 2008, 09:22 PM

I can't remember when was the last time I defrag my HDDs

Zenphic · 12th Apr 2008, 07:37 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Adrian Wong

Well, the platters are spinning all the time... Head overuse may be a problem but only if you defrag very often, like several times a day.

If you only defrag a few times a month.. or even once a month, this is unlikely to be a problem. Unless you overdo it, the benefits of defragging a hard drive far outweigh any potential reduction in HDD lifespan.

Agreed. Defragging really helps when you want to read/write on a HDD with lots of datas.

Chai · 12th Apr 2008, 10:08 AM

If you *ahem* run P2P alot, your HDD will require defragging very often.

Lacus · 14th Apr 2008, 07:32 PM

hmm, does actually using a lot of p2p actually harms the hdd and also slows it down? I used to use Diskeeper but later on changed to some freeware Auslogic disc defrag. Seems ok imo.

lee_what2004 · 14th Apr 2008, 11:20 PM

harming shouldn't be as the disk is spinning all the time,
it could slow down the performance as read/write is working all the time.

as for now, I'm using UltimateDefrag

Rotarizer · 15th Apr 2008, 02:28 AM

When a HDD is turned on, the platters will spin all the time, regardless of whether the drive is in 'use' or not. The notable exception is with hybrid drives where unless non-cached data is needed, the platters are static, AFAIK. Because of this, hybrid drives are also very slow when accessing non-cached data because the platters have to spin up from stop.

As for defragging, if it is done regularly, then the overall level of fragmentation is low, and every successive defrag run lasts generally only a short time.

Take a good automatic defragger for instance. Since it runs in the background using I/O sensing, it keeps the drives optimized when necessary and when it has idle resources to tap into. After initial processing of the drive, it kicks in for merely a few minutes a day for typical usage. It does it automatically, so there is no prior planning required for off-peak times unlike with older scheduled defragmentation, saving the user/admin some time and effort.

Also, defrag is just another drive operation, no more harmful than P2P or watching a movie off the HDD, AFAIK.

Zenphic · 15th Apr 2008, 09:31 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by lee_what2004

harming shouldn't be as the disk is spinning all the time,
it could slow down the performance as read/write is working all the time.

as for now, I'm using UltimateDefrag

Kewl, I used to use the trial of UltimateDefrag, but then I didn't want to purchase it and switched to JkDefrag

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Diskeeper	15	30.61%
PerfectDisk	8	16.33%
SpeedDisk	1	2.04%
Others	6	12.24%
dont defrag	5	10.20%
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Rotarizer Newbie Join Date: 22 Jun 2007 Posts: 4 Reputation: 59 Rep Power: 0	defrag When a HDD is turned on, the platters will spin all the time, regardless of whether the drive is in 'use' or not. The notable exception is with hybrid drives where unless non-cached data is needed, the platters are static, AFAIK. Because of this, hybrid drives are also very slow when accessing non-cached data because the platters have to spin up from stop. As for defragging, if it is done regularly, then the overall level of fragmentation is low, and every successive defrag run lasts generally only a short time. Take a good automatic defragger for instance. Since it runs in the background using I/O sensing, it keeps the drives optimized when necessary and when it has idle resources to tap into. After initial processing of the drive, it kicks in for merely a few minutes a day for typical usage. It does it automatically, so there is no prior planning required for off-peak times unlike with older scheduled defragmentation, saving the user/admin some time and effort. Also, defrag is just another drive operation, no more harmful than P2P or watching a movie off the HDD, AFAIK.