Rivatuner

s p r a n k i k o · 15th Nov 2005, 03:20 PM

Are the core temparature readings in rivatuner accurate?

pfelelep · 15th Nov 2005, 09:53 PM

greetings,
I'm new in this forum and I just overclocked my Toshiba satellite m30 using the special Adrian's guide and clockgen software.

overclocking settings:
FSB: 109.4
AGP: 36.47
(max for sound chipset...)

but trying to overclock the nvidia graphic card (still following Adrian's advices), it seems to freeze and bug when running a full screen 3d game (command and conquer generals).

I was wondering if it was because of the CPU high's temperature?
I don't know exactly if Rivatuner temp readings are accurate, I must check.

Anyway, thanxs for thoses guides and forum!

Adrian Wong · 16th Nov 2005, 12:57 AM

No idea about Rivatuner's accuracy in temperature readings.

But pfelelep, you are posting your question in the wrong thread. You should really post it here - http://forums.rojakpot.com/showthread.php?t=7220

In any case, that sounds like either the GPU or the memory chips cannot take the clock speeds you sent them to. Try reducing either one in small steps until you achieve stable performance.

pfelelep · 16th Nov 2005, 02:00 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Adrian Wong

But pfelelep, you are posting your question in the wrong thread. You should really post it here - http://forums.rojakpot.com/showthread.php?t=7220

Thanxs

Quote:

Originally Posted by Adrian Wong

In any case, that sounds like either the GPU or the memory chips cannot take the clock speeds you sent them to. Try reducing either one in small steps until you achieve stable performance.

yup, that's what I going to do.
My satellite's fan seems very noisy to me (maybe dust in it), so I thougth it could not work as efficiently as it should and increase Cpu temperature.

s p r a n k i k o · 16th Nov 2005, 04:26 PM

The Overdrive Tab shows 73C under load while Rivatuner displays 53C.

Although, I have a feeling that Rivatuner is the one that's inaccurate.

Chai · 16th Nov 2005, 06:32 PM

Actually I've posted this many times...

Overdrive is over compensated by ATI because of the inaccuracy of the thermal diode. So Rivatuner is the real actual temperature measured, which is not necessary the actual temperature.

s p r a n k i k o · 16th Nov 2005, 10:26 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Chai

Actually I've posted this many times...

Overdrive is over compensated by ATI because of the inaccuracy of the thermal diode. So Rivatuner is the real actual temperature measured, which is not necessary the actual temperature.

Meaning to say that neither one of them are "actually accurate"?

Which also means that you have to install a stand alone thermistor in between the HS and core to get accurate measurements, right?

Chai · 16th Nov 2005, 10:50 PM

Nope, none of the methods are actually accurate, including the standalone thermistor, which is basically the same as the Rivatuners result since you are measuring from the 'corner' of the chip.

There's really no way of getting accurate temperatures, the best is still those on-die thermistor like most newer cards, X800 or newer, or 5900 or newer.

s p r a n k i k o · 17th Nov 2005, 12:26 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Chai

Nope, none of the methods are actually accurate, including the standalone thermistor, which is basically the same as the Rivatuners result since you are measuring from the 'corner' of the chip.

There's really no way of getting accurate temperatures, the best is still those on-die thermistor like most newer cards, X800 or newer, or 5900 or newer.

Thanks for the info!!!

Papercut · 17th Nov 2005, 01:04 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Chai

There's really no way of getting accurate temperatures, the best is still those on-die thermistor like most newer cards, X800 or newer, or 5900 or newer.

So the readings that you get from those cards are accurate?

15th Nov 2005, 03:20 PM	#1 (permalink)
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15th Nov 2005, 09:53 PM	#2 (permalink)
pfelelep Warming up Join Date: 15 Nov 2005 Location: hongkong Posts: 119 Reputation: 318 Rep Power: 7	greetings, I'm new in this forum and I just overclocked my Toshiba satellite m30 using the special Adrian's guide and clockgen software. overclocking settings: FSB: 109.4 AGP: 36.47 (max for sound chipset...) but trying to overclock the nvidia graphic card (still following Adrian's advices), it seems to freeze and bug when running a full screen 3d game (command and conquer generals). I was wondering if it was because of the CPU high's temperature? I don't know exactly if Rivatuner temp readings are accurate, I must check. Anyway, thanxs for thoses guides and forum! __________________ Pfelelep I'm french, so excuse my english.

16th Nov 2005, 12:57 AM	#3 (permalink)
Adrian Wong Da Boss Join Date: 10 Oct 2002 Location: In front of my BenQ Joybook 7000 notebook! Posts: 29,939 Reputation: 2958 Rep Power: 65	No idea about Rivatuner's accuracy in temperature readings. But pfelelep, you are posting your question in the wrong thread. You should really post it here - http://forums.rojakpot.com/showthread.php?t=7220 In any case, that sounds like either the GPU or the memory chips cannot take the clock speeds you sent them to. Try reducing either one in small steps until you achieve stable performance. __________________ Dr. Adrian Wong Tech ARP \| Blog @ Tech ARP \| The Free Trade Zone DYKT : The only offshore account I have is at the sand bank? Keep Tech ARP free! Visit our sponsors! We need PROGRAMMERS and TECHNICAL WRITERS! Contact us if you are a hot shot programmer or technical writer! My items for sale : 50x SD Card \| Memory Stick PRO \| Cyclone Energy Saver \| Seiko SS watch \| Tiger/Carlsberg beer jugs \| Travel Speakers \| Motorola V600 \| Nokia N90 SOLD! \| New Lowepro Mini Trekker AW Other items for sale @ the FTZ : Zalman CNPS9500 LED @ $20 \| Zalman CNPS7700 Cu @ $20 \| Zalman CNPS7000 Cu @ $20 \| Swarovski bracelet watches \| Dell 17" LCD \| Hi-Fi speakers \| English DIVX movies \| HP LaserJet toners! \| Office chairs

16th Nov 2005, 04:26 PM	#5 (permalink)
s p r a n k i k o "0104" Join Date: 31 Aug 2005 Location: Manila Posts: 780 Reputation: 213 Rep Power: 6	The Overdrive Tab shows 73C under load while Rivatuner displays 53C. Although, I have a feeling that Rivatuner is the one that's inaccurate. __________________ Main rig: Opteron 170/3Ghz \| DFI NF4 Ultra-D \| http://valid.x86-secret.com/show_oc?id=163569 OCZ Platinum Elite Edition 1Gb/2-3-3-5/1T \| EVGA7900GTO Secondary rig: Opteron 144/2.9Ghz \| Abit KN8 Ultra \| http://valid.x86-secret.com/show_oc?id=212009 Team Xtreme 1Gb/2-3-3-5/1T \| XFX7900GS

16th Nov 2005, 06:32 PM	#6 (permalink)
Chai Administrator Join Date: 6 Oct 2002 Location: Maranello Posts: 26,662 Reputation: 3984 Rep Power: 72	Actually I've posted this many times... Overdrive is over compensated by ATI because of the inaccuracy of the thermal diode. So Rivatuner is the real actual temperature measured, which is not necessary the actual temperature. __________________ Chai (Contributor & Forum Admin) http://www.techarp.com/

16th Nov 2005, 10:50 PM	#8 (permalink)
Chai Administrator Join Date: 6 Oct 2002 Location: Maranello Posts: 26,662 Reputation: 3984 Rep Power: 72	Nope, none of the methods are actually accurate, including the standalone thermistor, which is basically the same as the Rivatuners result since you are measuring from the 'corner' of the chip. There's really no way of getting accurate temperatures, the best is still those on-die thermistor like most newer cards, X800 or newer, or 5900 or newer. __________________ Chai (Contributor & Forum Admin) http://www.techarp.com/

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