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Old 10th Jun 2006, 12:11 PM   #11 (permalink)
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Virus definitions, Windows updates, scandisk, cleanup, defrag, upgrades etc etc.. scheduling these is real work ?
Do you guys agree with me, maintenance of system is tedious job ?
Long, sometimes frustrating work, but uber fun when you are rewarded with a huge performance boost in the end!
It's really fun to try and make your system faster and faster
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Old 10th Jun 2006, 01:06 PM   #12 (permalink)
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If you dont want to do all these...then get a MAC...


That's a real helpful notion. Using this logic:

I hate painting my house.. so live in a car.
Getting my hair cut each week is a chore... so become a hippie.
Changing the oil in my car is a pain... so ride a bike.

I hope you are catching my hidden message: sure there are alternatives, but they are always worse.

Enjoy your "maintenance free" Mac.

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Oh? In what way?
Although the sarcasm was nearly obvious, it must have gone over your head. So you need me to point out how these alternatives are worse? Living in a car is worse then living in a house, riding a bike is worse then driving a car, and so on.

Actually, I am just suprised you needed me to explain it.
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Old 10th Jun 2006, 04:55 PM   #13 (permalink)
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If you dont want to do all these...then get a MAC...
Oh sure.. don't Mac users have to pay for minor updates ? plus.. you can't do cool stuff like overclocking and tweaking and stuff. It's just not fun, and not cheap either
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If you dont want to do all these...then get a MAC...


That's a real helpful notion. Using this logic:

I hate painting my house.. so live in a car.
Getting my hair cut each week is a chore... so become a hippie.
Changing the oil in my car is a pain... so ride a bike.

I hope you are catching my hidden message: sure there are alternatives, but they are always worse.

Enjoy your "maintenance free" Mac.



Although the sarcasm was nearly obvious, it must have gone over your head. So you need me to point out how these alternatives are worse? Living in a car is worse then living in a house, riding a bike is worse then driving a car, and so on.

Actually, I am just suprised you needed me to explain it.
Actually, I can't see the logic behind why you only point out worse alternatives, when there are better alternatives; hate painting your house, go get someone to do it for you.

The way I see it, you're putting what you use as superior, and everything else inferior. You're purposely pointing out worse alternatives in your flow of logic instead of thinking of any better alternatives.

If I were to do the same thing you did, I can say my Mac is superior, any alternatives, like Windows and Unix, is worse, using your same logic.

I'm interested to know why you say alternatives are always worse.. and whether you really think there's no such thing as better alternatives, cos that's how you're portraying it.

By the way, Shorter, minor updates are free on a mac, and major OS upgrades are still cheaper than even OEM copies of Windows XP

P/S: I don't intend to start another mac-windows war, but I'm just trying to point out that your logic is flawed in saying alternatives are always worse..

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Although the sarcasm was nearly obvious, it must have gone over your head. So you need me to point out how these alternatives are worse? Living in a car is worse then living in a house, riding a bike is worse then driving a car, and so on.

Actually, I am just suprised you needed me to explain it.
Actually I'm kinda wondering at your attempts at FUD here, in trying to assert that any attempts at looking at alternatives will always end up worse.

Kinda reminds me of this joker who had once said something like: 'It dont matter if you're doing the wrong thing, as long as you are doing it consistantly'
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Actually, I can't see the logic behind why By the way, Shorter, minor updates are free on a mac, and major OS upgrades are still cheaper than even OEM copies of Windows XP
According to http://www.applemalaysia.com.my/macosx/

Mac OS X 10.4 is RM549. My OEM copy of XP Home cost RM349.

But that's in Malaysia of course. It may well be more expensive where you are.

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According to http://www.applemalaysia.com.my/macosx/

Mac OS X 10.4 is RM549. My OEM copy of XP Home cost RM349.

But that's in Malaysia of course. It may well be more expensive where you are.

According to http://macasia.com.my/software/index.html

Mac OS X 10.4 Retail is RM499. That's boxed set retail, not OEM
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Actually I'm kinda wondering at your attempts at FUD here, in trying to assert that any attempts at looking at alternatives will always end up worse.
When eg660 said "If you dont want to do all these...then get a MAC..." I made the other comparisons, as if to say getting a Mac is the alternative... and it is worse. I didn't think that would be so hard to make the connection.

No system maintenance on a Mac? You still have updates, and they are free (FYI: just like all Microsoft updates are free) yet you just get stuck with the poor performance of a fragmented hard disk and hardware you cannot tweak.

As far as price goes, Windows XP Home SP-2 Full Version costs $65 USD. Please tell me where you can buy or upgrade the current Mac O/S for less!
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According to http://macasia.com.my/software/index.html

Mac OS X 10.4 Retail is RM499.
Why didn't you list the price for OEM Windows XP Home?

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That's boxed set retail, not OEM
Also, OEM doesn't exist for Mac software because guess what... you can't build a Mac.

I'm not sure if you know this about Windows or not, but the OEM version is identical to the retail version with one minor difference: One comes in a colorful box and the other comes in a brown box with white sleeve.
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