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hyper_raider · 4th Jan 2007, 04:06 AM

Me loves vi/vim

Check this out http://oregonstate.edu/~limed/vim_ref

djspinnet · 4th Jan 2007, 10:55 AM

Hmm, Ken, if you've noticed, the commands are linked closely to the command letter itself,

for example,

dd - delete
p - paste
g - go to line

...

and so forth.

Here's a better formatted document of common vi/vim commands

Adrian Wong · 4th Jan 2007, 11:05 PM

If you ask me, the trouble with the lack of acceptance of any platform is really not so much about whether the platform is good or bad. Rather, it's the lack of coverage on it, and the lack of evangelists preaching its virtues.

No matter how good Linux or UNIX is, unless people can see just how easy it is, why should they try it? People don't like the unknown. It frightens them.

So, if we want to spread word about Linux or UNIX, it might start with articles.. guides.. that show people how easy it is to start using them. I don't think newbies would really migrate to a new platform simply because it's less vulnerable to viruses, crashes, etc. Like every human being, they just want to take the easiest path.

If you ask me, we should come up with articles and guides like...

1. [OS] Installation Guide
2. [OS] Tweaking Guide
3. [OS] Hints & Tips Guide

Preferably all these guides should have plenty of screenshots and pictures.

fyire · 5th Jan 2007, 10:41 PM

Something interesting for a thought too. Newbies to computers can actually handle linux better than those who've used computers for a few years

And I'm not kidding here. When I first got my parents their first iBook, I tried a little experiment. I dumped in Linux first and used a rather minimal Windowmaker WM, and my mum had far less grumbles compared to when she was using Windows XP for the 6 months before that.

But of mileage may vary too, depending on what the needs are.

zy · 5th Jan 2007, 11:22 PM

it depends on what you are doing

fyire · 5th Jan 2007, 11:41 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by zy

it depends on what you are doing

Well, yeah, that's what I said. Anyways my point is in that most migration issues lies in the difficulty in adjusting to a differing way of doing things.

hyper_raider · 6th Jan 2007, 06:13 AM

Actually not all vim commands are intuitive, example:

ZZ - Save and close
zf - create fold
zc - close fold

But i still like it

belikethat · 6th Feb 2008, 12:38 AM

i hate vim
i use notepad ++ and than convert to unix format

i know i am spoilt

hyper_raider · 10th Feb 2008, 07:11 AM

Kids and your crazy editors

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Adrian Wong Da Boss Join Date: 10 Oct 2002 Location: In front of my BenQ Joybook 7000 notebook! Posts: 29,939 Reputation: 2958 Rep Power: 65	If you ask me, the trouble with the lack of acceptance of any platform is really not so much about whether the platform is good or bad. Rather, it's the lack of coverage on it, and the lack of evangelists preaching its virtues. No matter how good Linux or UNIX is, unless people can see just how easy it is, why should they try it? People don't like the unknown. It frightens them. So, if we want to spread word about Linux or UNIX, it might start with articles.. guides.. that show people how easy it is to start using them. I don't think newbies would really migrate to a new platform simply because it's less vulnerable to viruses, crashes, etc. Like every human being, they just want to take the easiest path. If you ask me, we should come up with articles and guides like... 1. [OS] Installation Guide 2. [OS] Tweaking Guide 3. [OS] Hints & Tips Guide Preferably all these guides should have plenty of screenshots and pictures. __________________ Dr. Adrian Wong Tech ARP \| Blog @ Tech ARP \| The Free Trade Zone DYKT : The only offshore account I have is at the sand bank? Keep Tech ARP free! Visit our sponsors! We need PROGRAMMERS and TECHNICAL WRITERS! Contact us if you are a hot shot programmer or technical writer! My items for sale : 50x SD Card \| Memory Stick PRO \| Cyclone Energy Saver \| Seiko SS watch \| Tiger/Carlsberg beer jugs \| Travel Speakers \| Motorola V600 \| Nokia N90 SOLD! \| New Lowepro Mini Trekker AW Other items for sale @ the FTZ : Zalman CNPS9500 LED @ $20 \| Zalman CNPS7700 Cu @ $20 \| Zalman CNPS7000 Cu @ $20 \| Swarovski bracelet watches \| Dell 17" LCD \| Hi-Fi speakers \| English DIVX movies \| HP LaserJet toners! \| Office chairs

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hyper_raider shutdown -h now Join Date: 15 Aug 2003 Location: in front of my pc Posts: 6,001 Reputation: 1078 Rep Power: 22	Actually not all vim commands are intuitive, example: ZZ - Save and close zf - create fold zc - close fold But i still like it __________________ "God does not play dice with the universe." - Albert Einstein (1879-1955) http://edward-lim.blogspot.com

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fyire I'm a regular Join Date: 15 Jan 2004 Location: Somewhere out there Posts: 350 Reputation: 15 Rep Power: 5	Something interesting for a thought too. Newbies to computers can actually handle linux better than those who've used computers for a few years And I'm not kidding here. When I first got my parents their first iBook, I tried a little experiment. I dumped in Linux first and used a rather minimal Windowmaker WM, and my mum had far less grumbles compared to when she was using Windows XP for the 6 months before that. But of mileage may vary too, depending on what the needs are.

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