Linux noob, help needed

karhoe · 28th Jan 2007, 09:45 PM

Hi,

I'm planning to get a new HDD and I planned to install Ubuntu Linux and Windows XP in both partition C and D. As this would be something very new to me, is there any guide?

1) I would make partition C and D: Which one should I install first? Ubuntu or Linux? Install into partition C or D ?

Thanks alot

hyper_raider · 29th Jan 2007, 04:55 AM

Install windows first and then linux

goldfries · 29th Jan 2007, 08:57 AM

actually it should be installing LINUX (or whatever non-Windows OS) first, then only Windows.

even if you want to Multiboot Windows, it should be installed in order from the oldest first, latest last.

peaz · 29th Jan 2007, 09:16 AM

Hmmm. I think it's the same actually. If you install Windows first, then Linux, you will be using the Linux boot loader to boot up the machine. If otherwise, then Windows's boot loader will boot up the machine on whichever OS you choose.

hyper_raider · 29th Jan 2007, 10:02 AM

I've always been installing windows first then linux, as peaz said if you install windows first grub will take over. And i like using grub

karhoe: for now i would install windows first, and once you done with that allocate space for linux when you boot into the linux cd, i think gparted allows you to do that. That is how i do it at least

karhoe · 29th Jan 2007, 02:17 PM

I think I heard from someone that installing Linux then Windows will caused the Linux boot information to be removed

peaz · 30th Jan 2007, 12:31 AM

linux always works better with their own boot loader... some flavours screws up if windows takes over the master boot table, at least last time la

so I'd still advice you to install windows 1st, and during the installation, remember to allocate an unformated space for Linux. The install linux and use up that allocation.

But better still, buy two hard disk. install different OS on different hard disk.

pfelelep · 30th Jan 2007, 11:55 AM

Hello.

Maybe this guide will help:
HowTo: install Ubuntu for dual-boot with Windows

Ubuntu is sure worth it

hyper_raider · 30th Jan 2007, 12:26 PM

basically you need 2 partitions for linux

partition 1: a swap partition (generally twice the amount of your ram) so if you have 512mb you need to allocate 1024mb
partition 2: where the actual OS will reside, make sure you set it as a /boot so that it can boot into it

Hope that helps

goldfries · 31st Jan 2007, 01:46 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by karhoe

I think I heard from someone that installing Linux then Windows will caused the Linux boot information to be removed

that depends on how the Windows was installed.

Quote:

Originally Posted by peaz

But better still, buy two hard disk. install different OS on different hard disk.

alternatively there's also applications like VMware.

for me? i have other machines to run Linux.

anyway, here's the article that i refer to for the Windows blabla installation order.

http://www.microsoft.com/windowsxp/u...ptember10.mspx

ok well it may be outdated - i read something similar quite a while back too.

28th Jan 2007, 09:45 PM	#1 (permalink)
karhoe I'm a regular Join Date: 29 Nov 2006 Posts: 293 Reputation: 11 Rep Power: 2	Linux noob, help needed Hi, I'm planning to get a new HDD and I planned to install Ubuntu Linux and Windows XP in both partition C and D. As this would be something very new to me, is there any guide? 1) I would make partition C and D: Which one should I install first? Ubuntu or Linux? Install into partition C or D ? Thanks alot

29th Jan 2007, 04:55 AM	#2 (permalink)
hyper_raider shutdown -h now Join Date: 15 Aug 2003 Location: in front of my pc Posts: 6,001 Reputation: 1078 Rep Power: 22	Install windows first and then linux __________________ "God does not play dice with the universe." - Albert Einstein (1879-1955) http://edward-lim.blogspot.com

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peaz ARP Webmaster Join Date: 13 Oct 2002 Location: http://atpeaz.placidthoughts.com/ Posts: 8,500 Reputation: 1633 Rep Power: 31	Hmmm. I think it's the same actually. If you install Windows first, then Linux, you will be using the Linux boot loader to boot up the machine. If otherwise, then Windows's boot loader will boot up the machine on whichever OS you choose. __________________ Ken Ng Tech ARP Visit my web gallery - Ken's Digital Canvas Shoot and Earn Money from Stock Photography Sterling@PJ Community Forums

29th Jan 2007, 10:02 AM	#5 (permalink)
hyper_raider shutdown -h now Join Date: 15 Aug 2003 Location: in front of my pc Posts: 6,001 Reputation: 1078 Rep Power: 22	I've always been installing windows first then linux, as peaz said if you install windows first grub will take over. And i like using grub karhoe: for now i would install windows first, and once you done with that allocate space for linux when you boot into the linux cd, i think gparted allows you to do that. That is how i do it at least __________________ "God does not play dice with the universe." - Albert Einstein (1879-1955) http://edward-lim.blogspot.com

30th Jan 2007, 12:31 AM	#7 (permalink)
peaz ARP Webmaster Join Date: 13 Oct 2002 Location: http://atpeaz.placidthoughts.com/ Posts: 8,500 Reputation: 1633 Rep Power: 31	linux always works better with their own boot loader... some flavours screws up if windows takes over the master boot table, at least last time la so I'd still advice you to install windows 1st, and during the installation, remember to allocate an unformated space for Linux. The install linux and use up that allocation. But better still, buy two hard disk. install different OS on different hard disk. __________________ Ken Ng Tech ARP Visit my web gallery - Ken's Digital Canvas Shoot and Earn Money from Stock Photography Sterling@PJ Community Forums

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goldfries More Than Meets The Eye Join Date: 22 Jan 2003 Location: KL/PJ Malaysia Posts: 7,864 Reputation: 539 Rep Power: 18	actually it should be installing LINUX (or whatever non-Windows OS) first, then only Windows. even if you want to Multiboot Windows, it should be installed in order from the oldest first, latest last.

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karhoe I'm a regular Join Date: 29 Nov 2006 Posts: 293 Reputation: 11 Rep Power: 2	I think I heard from someone that installing Linux then Windows will caused the Linux boot information to be removed

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pfelelep Warming up Join Date: 15 Nov 2005 Location: hongkong Posts: 119 Reputation: 318 Rep Power: 7	Hello. Maybe this guide will help: HowTo: install Ubuntu for dual-boot with Windows Ubuntu is sure worth it __________________ Pfelelep I'm french, so excuse my english.

30th Jan 2007, 12:26 PM	#9 (permalink)
hyper_raider shutdown -h now Join Date: 15 Aug 2003 Location: in front of my pc Posts: 6,001 Reputation: 1078 Rep Power: 22	basically you need 2 partitions for linux partition 1: a swap partition (generally twice the amount of your ram) so if you have 512mb you need to allocate 1024mb partition 2: where the actual OS will reside, make sure you set it as a /boot so that it can boot into it Hope that helps __________________ "God does not play dice with the universe." - Albert Einstein (1879-1955) http://edward-lim.blogspot.com

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