Disabling services.

The_YongGrand · 20th Jun 2007, 11:21 PM

Is it okay to disable Superfetch, and then re-enable it? I heard about disabling and reenabling it causes problems.

And also, what do you think about Windows Search? I turn it off because it trashes my HDD.

I'm not sure whether turning off other services will improve performance, any ideas about that?

ZuePhok · 20th Jun 2007, 11:59 PM

bah just get back to XP..
if you read this http://www.anandtech.com/cpuchipsets...oc.aspx?i=3009
the whole thing makes Intel and MS look stupid..

wtf does it mean the readyboost might not on even if u check the box?????

Dashken · 21st Jun 2007, 01:20 AM

The Robson is the most problematic where in Disk Management, it's detected as another drive which will pose problems for OEM's system recovery where the WINRE partition has to be hide/unhide before and after recovery, assigning drive letter to the WINRE partition is the problem because you have the Robson drive as well.

From my colleagues' experience, with Robson there's nearly no performance improvement at all.

Somemore desktop is going to have something like this as well. Can die man...

dukeman · 22nd Jun 2007, 05:48 AM

does anyone know if there is a list of services that are safe to be stopped in vista?

Adrian Wong · 24th Jun 2007, 10:30 PM

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Originally Posted by Dashken

The Robson is the most problematic where in Disk Management, it's detected as another drive which will pose problems for OEM's system recovery where the WINRE partition has to be hide/unhide before and after recovery, assigning drive letter to the WINRE partition is the problem because you have the Robson drive as well.

From my colleagues' experience, with Robson there's nearly no performance improvement at all.

Somemore desktop is going to have something like this as well. Can die man...

I think Robson is only useful for notebooks that have little memory, like 512MB. With RAM prices dropping, it's now affordable to get 1GB or even 2GB of DDR2 memory. With so much memory, Robson is quite pointless.

Adrian Wong · 24th Jun 2007, 10:34 PM

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Originally Posted by dukeman

does anyone know if there is a list of services that are safe to be stopped in vista?

Well, there are a few non-essential services you can disable, like Fax, ReadyBoost (if you don't intend to use it), Wireless Zero Configuration (if you do not use WiFi), Telephony, Terminal Services, etc.

The_YongGrand · 27th Jun 2007, 10:29 PM

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Originally Posted by Adrian Wong

Well, there are a few non-essential services you can disable, like Fax, ReadyBoost (if you don't intend to use it), Wireless Zero Configuration (if you do not use WiFi), Telephony, Terminal Services, etc.

Thanks.

Hmm... I have some problems in Vista's Home networking. It's either quite freaky, flaky or sometimes slower.

I thought of killing that IPvP6 somethingy, because the XP machine in my next room isn't using this at all. Not sure whether I will want to disable that Network Topology thing or not...

Adrian Wong · 28th Jun 2007, 12:36 AM

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Originally Posted by The_YongGrand

Thanks.

Hmm... I have some problems in Vista's Home networking. It's either quite freaky, flaky or sometimes slower.

I thought of killing that IPvP6 somethingy, because the XP machine in my next room isn't using this at all. Not sure whether I will want to disable that Network Topology thing or not...

Hah.. What a coincidence. For some reason, my network adaptor card is now screwy in Vista. I don't think it's a hardware failure but I still can't get it to work right. It always connects to an unknown network with a random IP.

Sorry, OOT. Let's get back to topic.

ZuePhok · 28th Jun 2007, 12:58 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Dashken

The Robson is the most problematic where in Disk Management, it's detected as another drive which will pose problems for OEM's system recovery where the WINRE partition has to be hide/unhide before and after recovery, assigning drive letter to the WINRE partition is the problem because you have the Robson drive as well.

From my colleagues' experience, with Robson there's nearly no performance improvement at all.

Somemore desktop is going to have something like this as well. Can die man...

had a chance to play with the Versa E6310 for a week..of course with robson enabled. results = full of it.

Grogan · 21st Jul 2007, 03:18 AM

I've disabled and re-enabled Superfetch and I don't think it caused a problem. About all I can think of is, if you disable it and use the system for a while without the service running, the usage pattern data wouldn't be current. I think that's a dumb idea anyways, because software algorithms can't be made smart enough to know what you really want to be pre loaded at any given time. Disk i/o hurts now or later... it might as well cache files from disk when they are accessed.

It's ridiculous. Vista boots up, loads the desktop and there's several seconds of peace before that silly Superfetch starts loading stuff from disk. Open a large application or game that needs the memory and close it, and Vista prefetches all that stuff over again.

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Grogan Newbie Join Date: 19 Jul 2007 Posts: 9 Reputation: 0 Rep Power: 0	I've disabled and re-enabled Superfetch and I don't think it caused a problem. About all I can think of is, if you disable it and use the system for a while without the service running, the usage pattern data wouldn't be current. I think that's a dumb idea anyways, because software algorithms can't be made smart enough to know what you really want to be pre loaded at any given time. Disk i/o hurts now or later... it might as well cache files from disk when they are accessed. It's ridiculous. Vista boots up, loads the desktop and there's several seconds of peace before that silly Superfetch starts loading stuff from disk. Open a large application or game that needs the memory and close it, and Vista prefetches all that stuff over again.