Weird Lag... - Page 3

1031982 · 15th Aug 2007, 05:06 AM

Ok, now this is annoying. It was the AGP driver because I had a whole millisecond lag with it was drawing 2 opening's at once. But, the OS is all nuts. Mainly because optimisations I did from the start for the drivers SO, I need to reload everything AGAIN. Oh well, it's been a while now, and it's just more annoying then anything else. Not too long these days either.
If I have this problem pop up again, I will just continue in here, so please don't lock the thread for about a week if at all.

Adrian Wong · 15th Aug 2007, 09:45 AM

No problem.

Yeah, best start fresh. BTW, did you also install the NVIDIA IDE driver? Maybe you can try with the standard IDE driver.

1031982 · 15th Aug 2007, 11:38 AM

no. I used to use the IDE driver, but it caused some problems with letting optical disks go. It would keep thinking the disk was still there. Or sometimes just wouldn't mount the disk. Nothing unheard of if you look into it, so I just use the MS IDE driver. With the HDD it's a little slower, barely noticeable and it's a lot more reliable.
Anyway, I don't have the time to re-install everything now, and I am just lazy. Soon, it will be dumped but for now I put the NVidia AGP driver back in. I will live with the lag for now. But I also downloaded a new copy of it, and verified it. They changed the INF files a little, so it might work. Either way, I will dump everything. Partitions are a lifesaver with this stuff!

b104 · 17th Aug 2007, 09:07 PM

Not quite sure what you mean.You said that "when u open programs etc ,that sometimes there is a stall or lag".AGP drivers as u know are graphics performance but opening any prog is always initiated by the AMD chip & it's drivers.Chipset being first install, can slowly be corrupted in it's performance over time by programs that need patching etc.It still works,but is hampered.I only realised how much,when I started encoding video.
Nvidia & ATI are about to soon start using the wasted grunt from the graphics cards,towards functions that the cpu only does.Those m'boards will be worth waiting for!

1031982 · 27th Aug 2007, 12:34 PM

Ok, I have a nice clean install of XP running. Without the AGP driver from nVidia, there is still a lag BUT, it's extremely rare (I have to do a lot of opening and closing, or do things quickly) and it's a fraction of the time before. Very tolerable, as it's mostly when it has to start drawing a new item. Once it gets past the program icon, it's fine.

Adrian Wong · 27th Aug 2007, 02:37 PM

Well, that is a relief.

1031982 · 30th Aug 2007, 10:55 PM

And now the celebration can end. Why? Why else, IT'S BACK!
Yes, it's back just as before, only more frequently. I am going to put the AGP Driver on, but the whole lagging is back. Although, it's obvious it's a software problem.

1031982 · 2nd Sep 2007, 02:37 PM

I got board, so I dumbed everything and reinstalled XP again. Oddly enough, it seems to be gone now... weird.
I will update if things change, or as soon as I remember to should everything keep working properly.

15th Aug 2007, 05:06 AM	#21 (permalink)
1031982 Super Active Join Date: 25 Feb 2003 Location: USA Posts: 1,580 Reputation: 285 Rep Power: 9	Ok, now this is annoying. It was the AGP driver because I had a whole millisecond lag with it was drawing 2 opening's at once. But, the OS is all nuts. Mainly because optimisations I did from the start for the drivers SO, I need to reload everything AGAIN. Oh well, it's been a while now, and it's just more annoying then anything else. Not too long these days either. If I have this problem pop up again, I will just continue in here, so please don't lock the thread for about a week if at all. __________________ Running : Gigabyte EP45-DS3R, Intel E7200 C2D, 2GB DDR2 Dual Channel, WD Raptor 74GB, WD 500 GB HDD, ASUS 16X DVD-ROM, LiteOn 16X DVD+/-RW, 1.44 MB Floppy, ATI Radeon HD 3450, Dell 2005FPW, and a SB Audigy2 ZS PRO with Logitech Z5300e speakers.

15th Aug 2007, 09:45 AM	#22 (permalink)
Adrian Wong Da Boss Join Date: 10 Oct 2002 Location: In front of my BenQ Joybook 7000 notebook! Posts: 29,939 Reputation: 2958 Rep Power: 65	No problem. Yeah, best start fresh. BTW, did you also install the NVIDIA IDE driver? Maybe you can try with the standard IDE driver. __________________ Dr. Adrian Wong Tech ARP \| Blog @ Tech ARP \| The Free Trade Zone DYKT : The only offshore account I have is at the sand bank? Keep Tech ARP free! Visit our sponsors! We need PROGRAMMERS and TECHNICAL WRITERS! Contact us if you are a hot shot programmer or technical writer! My items for sale : 50x SD Card \| Memory Stick PRO \| Cyclone Energy Saver \| Seiko SS watch \| Tiger/Carlsberg beer jugs \| Travel Speakers \| Motorola V600 \| Nokia N90 SOLD! \| New Lowepro Mini Trekker AW Other items for sale @ the FTZ : Zalman CNPS9500 LED @ $20 \| Zalman CNPS7700 Cu @ $20 \| Zalman CNPS7000 Cu @ $20 \| Swarovski bracelet watches \| Dell 17" LCD \| Hi-Fi speakers \| English DIVX movies \| HP LaserJet toners! \| Office chairs

15th Aug 2007, 11:38 AM	#23 (permalink)
1031982 Super Active Join Date: 25 Feb 2003 Location: USA Posts: 1,580 Reputation: 285 Rep Power: 9	no. I used to use the IDE driver, but it caused some problems with letting optical disks go. It would keep thinking the disk was still there. Or sometimes just wouldn't mount the disk. Nothing unheard of if you look into it, so I just use the MS IDE driver. With the HDD it's a little slower, barely noticeable and it's a lot more reliable. Anyway, I don't have the time to re-install everything now, and I am just lazy. Soon, it will be dumped but for now I put the NVidia AGP driver back in. I will live with the lag for now. But I also downloaded a new copy of it, and verified it. They changed the INF files a little, so it might work. Either way, I will dump everything. Partitions are a lifesaver with this stuff! __________________ Running : Gigabyte EP45-DS3R, Intel E7200 C2D, 2GB DDR2 Dual Channel, WD Raptor 74GB, WD 500 GB HDD, ASUS 16X DVD-ROM, LiteOn 16X DVD+/-RW, 1.44 MB Floppy, ATI Radeon HD 3450, Dell 2005FPW, and a SB Audigy2 ZS PRO with Logitech Z5300e speakers.

17th Aug 2007, 09:07 PM	#24 (permalink)
b104 Getting there Join Date: 18 Aug 2004 Location: Ex-Tokyo shoebox renter Posts: 230 Reputation: 28 Rep Power: 5	Not quite sure what you mean.You said that "when u open programs etc ,that sometimes there is a stall or lag".AGP drivers as u know are graphics performance but opening any prog is always initiated by the AMD chip & it's drivers.Chipset being first install, can slowly be corrupted in it's performance over time by programs that need patching etc.It still works,but is hampered.I only realised how much,when I started encoding video. Nvidia & ATI are about to soon start using the wasted grunt from the graphics cards,towards functions that the cpu only does.Those m'boards will be worth waiting for! __________________ B104

27th Aug 2007, 12:34 PM	#25 (permalink)
1031982 Super Active Join Date: 25 Feb 2003 Location: USA Posts: 1,580 Reputation: 285 Rep Power: 9	Ok, I have a nice clean install of XP running. Without the AGP driver from nVidia, there is still a lag BUT, it's extremely rare (I have to do a lot of opening and closing, or do things quickly) and it's a fraction of the time before. Very tolerable, as it's mostly when it has to start drawing a new item. Once it gets past the program icon, it's fine. __________________ Running : Gigabyte EP45-DS3R, Intel E7200 C2D, 2GB DDR2 Dual Channel, WD Raptor 74GB, WD 500 GB HDD, ASUS 16X DVD-ROM, LiteOn 16X DVD+/-RW, 1.44 MB Floppy, ATI Radeon HD 3450, Dell 2005FPW, and a SB Audigy2 ZS PRO with Logitech Z5300e speakers.

27th Aug 2007, 02:37 PM	#26 (permalink)
Adrian Wong Da Boss Join Date: 10 Oct 2002 Location: In front of my BenQ Joybook 7000 notebook! Posts: 29,939 Reputation: 2958 Rep Power: 65	Well, that is a relief. __________________ Dr. Adrian Wong Tech ARP \| Blog @ Tech ARP \| The Free Trade Zone DYKT : The only offshore account I have is at the sand bank? Keep Tech ARP free! Visit our sponsors! We need PROGRAMMERS and TECHNICAL WRITERS! Contact us if you are a hot shot programmer or technical writer! My items for sale : 50x SD Card \| Memory Stick PRO \| Cyclone Energy Saver \| Seiko SS watch \| Tiger/Carlsberg beer jugs \| Travel Speakers \| Motorola V600 \| Nokia N90 SOLD! \| New Lowepro Mini Trekker AW Other items for sale @ the FTZ : Zalman CNPS9500 LED @ $20 \| Zalman CNPS7700 Cu @ $20 \| Zalman CNPS7000 Cu @ $20 \| Swarovski bracelet watches \| Dell 17" LCD \| Hi-Fi speakers \| English DIVX movies \| HP LaserJet toners! \| Office chairs

30th Aug 2007, 10:55 PM	#27 (permalink)
1031982 Super Active Join Date: 25 Feb 2003 Location: USA Posts: 1,580 Reputation: 285 Rep Power: 9	And now the celebration can end. Why? Why else, IT'S BACK! Yes, it's back just as before, only more frequently. I am going to put the AGP Driver on, but the whole lagging is back. Although, it's obvious it's a software problem. __________________ Running : Gigabyte EP45-DS3R, Intel E7200 C2D, 2GB DDR2 Dual Channel, WD Raptor 74GB, WD 500 GB HDD, ASUS 16X DVD-ROM, LiteOn 16X DVD+/-RW, 1.44 MB Floppy, ATI Radeon HD 3450, Dell 2005FPW, and a SB Audigy2 ZS PRO with Logitech Z5300e speakers.

2nd Sep 2007, 02:37 PM	#28 (permalink)
1031982 Super Active Join Date: 25 Feb 2003 Location: USA Posts: 1,580 Reputation: 285 Rep Power: 9	I got board, so I dumbed everything and reinstalled XP again. Oddly enough, it seems to be gone now... weird. I will update if things change, or as soon as I remember to should everything keep working properly. __________________ Running : Gigabyte EP45-DS3R, Intel E7200 C2D, 2GB DDR2 Dual Channel, WD Raptor 74GB, WD 500 GB HDD, ASUS 16X DVD-ROM, LiteOn 16X DVD+/-RW, 1.44 MB Floppy, ATI Radeon HD 3450, Dell 2005FPW, and a SB Audigy2 ZS PRO with Logitech Z5300e speakers.