4gb on vista ultimate 32-bit - Page 3

Chai · 26th Dec 2007, 08:51 AM

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Originally Posted by ZuePhok

load 64-bit vista, install vbox, install 32-bit xp, anhd you are good to go.

Not going to work, because I need to play many games, which doesn't work with virtual pc.

ZuePhok · 26th Dec 2007, 10:14 AM

as for games, wow will handle them

Chai · 26th Dec 2007, 02:13 PM

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Originally Posted by ZuePhok

as for games, wow will handle them

What is wow?

ZuePhok · 26th Dec 2007, 04:46 PM

windows on windows, a 32-bit emulator built into x64 windows. runs at native speed and is used translate 32-bit calls so that all 32-bit apps can be executed on x64 windows. 64bit registry and 32bit are under different trees. the same goes to system and program files. unless your app requires a driver (eg, adobe PDF printer, cd/dvd/bluray burning app, vid camera, handphone..etc), all 32-bit app will run just fine on x64.

Chai · 26th Dec 2007, 06:34 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by ZuePhok

windows on windows, a 32-bit emulator built into x64 windows. runs at native speed and is used translate 32-bit calls so that all 32-bit apps can be executed on x64 windows. 64bit registry and 32bit are under different trees. the same goes to system and program files. unless your app requires a driver (eg, adobe PDF printer, cd/dvd/bluray burning app, vid camera, handphone..etc), all 32-bit app will run just fine on x64.

But don't games require graphics card drivers?

ZuePhok · 26th Dec 2007, 09:23 PM

64-bit forceware and catalyst have existed for more than a year. x64 doesn't take 32-bit driver but it can run 32-bit app, through WOW.
so my point was that there are still alot of developers out there who just don't bother to release 64-bit drivers. take adobe as an example. 32-bit acrobat pro 8.0 can't print to PDF on x64 windows because it lacks 64-bit drivers . Patch v8.1 fixes this issue (as adobe finally added in 64-bit driver support, but the application is still 32-bit, and runs in WOW environment).

So a 32-bit game will run on x64. in WOW environment. i completed all my 07 games on x64 vista

Chai · 26th Dec 2007, 11:13 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by ZuePhok

64-bit forceware and catalyst have existed for more than a year. x64 doesn't take 32-bit driver but it can run 32-bit app, through WOW.
so my point was that there are still alot of developers out there who just don't bother to release 64-bit drivers. take adobe as an example. 32-bit acrobat pro 8.0 can't print to PDF on x64 windows because it lacks 64-bit drivers . Patch v8.1 fixes this issue (as adobe finally added in 64-bit driver support, but the application is still 32-bit, and runs in WOW environment).

So a 32-bit game will run on x64. in WOW environment. i completed all my 07 games on x64 vista

I don't think you know what type of games I'm refering to.

Emulators, classic games, dos games etc. Thankfully, DOSBox works in 64bit.

ZuePhok · 27th Dec 2007, 12:27 AM

x64 windows doesn't support 16-bit app

Chai · 27th Dec 2007, 07:21 AM

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Originally Posted by ZuePhok

x64 windows doesn't support 16-bit app

Yup, that is some of the problems I'm worried about.

peaz · 27th Dec 2007, 10:13 AM

16 bit apps? wow. that's ancient. LOL! If you want to continue to run those, then no choice lo.

Otherwise, WOW works great. more than 50% of my installed apps are on the "Program Files (x86)" folder anyway. And that include quite a few games too

Goes to show that 32 bit apps runs just as fine on Vista 64 as it would on Vista 32 or XP. Those problematic apps are the ones that specifically won't run on 64 bit such as Nikon's RAW plugin for Vista.... works only on 32 bit. WTH.

26th Dec 2007, 10:14 AM	#22 (permalink)
ZuePhok Hold me back! I can't stop posting!!! Join Date: 16 Dec 2002 Location: Floating Island Of Mandango Posts: 8,628 Reputation: 3005 Rep Power: 45	as for games, wow will handle them __________________ my motto: poison first, think later.

26th Dec 2007, 04:46 PM	#24 (permalink)
ZuePhok Hold me back! I can't stop posting!!! Join Date: 16 Dec 2002 Location: Floating Island Of Mandango Posts: 8,628 Reputation: 3005 Rep Power: 45	windows on windows, a 32-bit emulator built into x64 windows. runs at native speed and is used translate 32-bit calls so that all 32-bit apps can be executed on x64 windows. 64bit registry and 32bit are under different trees. the same goes to system and program files. unless your app requires a driver (eg, adobe PDF printer, cd/dvd/bluray burning app, vid camera, handphone..etc), all 32-bit app will run just fine on x64. __________________ my motto: poison first, think later.

26th Dec 2007, 09:23 PM	#26 (permalink)
ZuePhok Hold me back! I can't stop posting!!! Join Date: 16 Dec 2002 Location: Floating Island Of Mandango Posts: 8,628 Reputation: 3005 Rep Power: 45	64-bit forceware and catalyst have existed for more than a year. x64 doesn't take 32-bit driver but it can run 32-bit app, through WOW. so my point was that there are still alot of developers out there who just don't bother to release 64-bit drivers. take adobe as an example. 32-bit acrobat pro 8.0 can't print to PDF on x64 windows because it lacks 64-bit drivers . Patch v8.1 fixes this issue (as adobe finally added in 64-bit driver support, but the application is still 32-bit, and runs in WOW environment). So a 32-bit game will run on x64. in WOW environment. i completed all my 07 games on x64 vista __________________ my motto: poison first, think later.

27th Dec 2007, 12:27 AM	#28 (permalink)
ZuePhok Hold me back! I can't stop posting!!! Join Date: 16 Dec 2002 Location: Floating Island Of Mandango Posts: 8,628 Reputation: 3005 Rep Power: 45	x64 windows doesn't support 16-bit app __________________ my motto: poison first, think later.

27th Dec 2007, 10:13 AM	#30 (permalink)
peaz ARP Webmaster Join Date: 13 Oct 2002 Location: http://atpeaz.placidthoughts.com/ Posts: 8,515 Reputation: 1673 Rep Power: 31	16 bit apps? wow. that's ancient. LOL! If you want to continue to run those, then no choice lo. Otherwise, WOW works great. more than 50% of my installed apps are on the "Program Files (x86)" folder anyway. And that include quite a few games too Goes to show that 32 bit apps runs just as fine on Vista 64 as it would on Vista 32 or XP. Those problematic apps are the ones that specifically won't run on 64 bit such as Nikon's RAW plugin for Vista.... works only on 32 bit. WTH. __________________ Ken Ng Tech ARP Visit my web gallery - Ken's Digital Canvas Shoot and Earn Money from Stock Photography Sterling@PJ Community Forums

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