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Old 13th Feb 2005, 03:19 AM   #1 (permalink)
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Hello everyone!

Has anyone tried out the Dell 1704FPT (17") or 1905FP (19") LCD monitors yet?

As far as I can tell, the Dell 1704FTP is using a TN-Film matrix with a fast response time of 12ms, but very narrow viewing angle (just like the BenQ Joybook 7000's LCD panel) and poor colour saturation.

The Dell 1905FP is apparently using a Samsung-made PVA matrix panel. Therefore, it has a slow response time of 25ms but a good viewing angle and moderate colour saturation.

The thing is PVA panels are supposed to be less suitable for gaming than TN-Film panels. And as you can see, it's 25ms vs. 12ms. Then again, specifications are just specifications.

So, has anyone tried them out yet? Do you get any ghosting with either panels?
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Hello everyone!

Has anyone tried out the Dell 1704FPT (17") or 1905FP (19") LCD monitors yet?

As far as I can tell, the Dell 1704FTP is using a TN-Film matrix with a fast response time of 12ms, but very narrow viewing angle (just like the BenQ Joybook 7000's LCD panel) and poor colour saturation.

The Dell 1905FP is apparently using a Samsung-made PVA matrix panel. Therefore, it has a slow response time of 25ms but a good viewing angle and moderate colour saturation.

The thing is PVA panels are supposed to be less suitable for gaming than TN-Film panels. And as you can see, it's 25ms vs. 12ms. Then again, specifications are just specifications.

So, has anyone tried them out yet? Do you get any ghosting with either panels?
I've been using the 1704FPT for a few months now and I"ve been pretty happy with it. Though I'm not much of a gamer, PsYkHoTiK was using my monitor most of the time during our month-long gaming session, and he didn't have many complaints . Not having any other LCDs around (besides the tired 13.3" panel, 50ms panel on my laptop!!) to compare it with, I can't say much about color saturation, and I don't have any complaints about the viewing angle. I do regularly use older Dell panels (1703FP, 1702FP, 1701FP, 1800FP), and things don't really look better all. Admittedly, those systems are using VGA connectors instead of DVI, though.
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Because of its TN-Film matrix, the 1704FPT "should not" show much ghosting. But it's nice to know that you guys have tested it out and found the response time to be satisfactory.

The thing is.. both the 17" 1704FPT and the 19" 1905FP have the same resolution - 1280x1024. So, text and graphics should look much sharper on the 1704FPT. Also, the 1704FPT is significantly cheaper than the 1905FP.

The thing is the 1905FP is supposed to have a good Samsung PVA panel that apparently does not show any ghosting, even with a response time of 25ms. But of course, it would be best if someone here actually tested it and can report on the ghosting.

Too bad there's no way to compare both monitors side-by-side. That would be the best way to determine which is the better monitor to get.
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Too bad there's no way to compare both monitors side-by-side. That would be the best way to determine which is the better monitor to get.
Well there is . Of course, the only limitation will be in your bank balance . How about ordering both units from Dell and returning whichever one you think is worse? You'll only have to pay shipping and you'll have a definitive side-by-side comparison!
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Well there is . Of course, the only limitation will be in your bank balance . How about ordering both units from Dell and returning whichever one you think is worse? You'll only have to pay shipping and you'll have a definitive side-by-side comparison!
Huh?? I don't think that's possible here in Malaysia!
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Huh?? I don't think that's possible here in Malaysia!
Dell's return policy should apply everywhere, just the term that differs.

I might be able to tell you which is better pretty soon. 1905FP should come to me within a week or so.

I hate deal sites like Fatwallet. Please excuse me now, I have to figure out how to live for the next few months with a dangerously low bank balance...
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ROTFL!! Man, are you RICH or what??

Cool!!
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ROTFL!! Man, are you RICH or what??

Cool!!
I started out the month on stable (i.e. just enough to survive, not much extra) financial footing. Didn't last long . Unlike PsYkHoTiK, I don't have very deep bank balances to dip into all the time
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Haha.. That's so true. PsY has like UNLIMITED funds!

Hey, do let me know how it stands up against the 1704FPT!

Hey... It could be reviewed too!
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Haha.. That's so true. PsY has like UNLIMITED funds!

Hey, do let me know how it stands up against the 1704FPT!

Hey... It could be reviewed too!
You know, it's really nice to have a 19" LCD beside a 17" LCD .

The display area is significantly larger than the 17 (of course), but the 17" looks a lot cooler. In fact, when I first powered up the 19" I thought it was faulty...not having another 1905FP around I don't know whether it's just mine or common to all.

Have to dash out now so I can't say much more...will update you in this thread when I get back.
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