New Monitor - Page 2

Chai · 30th Jun 2006, 06:21 PM

There's no such thing as perfect.

Good luck finding a monitor that suits you.

Papercut · 30th Jun 2006, 10:11 PM

True

Chai beginning to lose faith in Dell moneytors now?

I think I read about this latency issue before, on [H] forums...I think some of them made an observation about the 2405 and that when you moved the mouse, it took a while for the movement to register onscreen. They termed it "input lag" or something.

Personally I would always recommend the Viewsonic VX series for good monitors with fast response rates.

xinoxide · 1st Jul 2006, 09:06 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Papercut

True

Chai beginning to lose faith in Dell moneytors now?

I think I read about this latency issue before, on [H] forums...I think some of them made an observation about the 2405 and that when you moved the mouse, it took a while for the movement to register onscreen. They termed it "input lag" or something.

Personally I would always recommend the Viewsonic VX series for good monitors with fast response rates.

yeah, im going to look into the viewsonic, but the LCD's feel just like wireless mice, i can even feel a delay on the mx1000, though its minimal, i know its there.

Chai · 1st Jul 2006, 09:56 AM

That's why all my input devices will never be wireless.

xinoxide · 5th Jul 2006, 11:55 AM

same reason i didnt keep my mx1000, and am kinda turned off by LCD's but i would like to get a wireless keyboard and mouse agains, since i got a TV with a nice picture from my PC, id like to be able to sit on my couch in my room and play around.

Max_87 · 5th Jul 2006, 06:53 PM

About the color banding issue on the DELL moneytors, they already fixed it since Rev. A02. Only the older revisions have serious color banding problems when using DVI input. I ran a gradient test the 2007WFP (Rev. A02) on both VGA and DVI and both look exactly the same. Your eyes have to be like ~5cm from the LCD to notice any color banding and it is only visible on gradient tests, and so far I have not noticed any color banding during normal usage.

Adrian Wong · 12th Jul 2006, 12:15 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Max_87

About the color banding issue on the DELL moneytors, they already fixed it since Rev. A02. Only the older revisions have serious color banding problems when using DVI input. I ran a gradient test the 2007WFP (Rev. A02) on both VGA and DVI and both look exactly the same. Your eyes have to be like ~5cm from the LCD to notice any color banding and it is only visible on gradient tests, and so far I have not noticed any color banding during normal usage.

That's really great news!

Terminator · 13th Jul 2006, 10:32 AM

Well my friend(s), good luck trying to find a good CRT monitor at this point in time and in the future. I feel everyones pain that are trying to find a good quality CRT monitor. At least in the USA. CRT monitors are disapearing very fast here nowadays

. The industry is just trying to get rid of them in favor of LCD's

. I guess the manufacture's believe that they can manufacture them cheaper than the CRT's monitors now. And you guys know its all about money and budgets. And, like any new technology. These new monitors are very expensive to the consumer compared to their CRT counterparts at the moment. However, they will come down in price eventually. I just bought a Dell 2407 Monitor a few days ago for $747.15 from DELL (revision A02 Mexico the newest revision). And, I have no banding issues what so ever in the Desktop Mode. I believe the banding is caused by the internal processor in the display and that issue was fixed with the newer revision. So, if any of you guys get one of these 2407's from Dell in the future. Get the A02 version and run it in Desktop Mode and you should be safe.

Cheers

xinoxide · 15th Jul 2006, 03:35 PM

hah, i managed to find a great deal on 21" sony trinitrons, i got a pair of sony trinitron Sony CPD-G520P's these things are amazing, im running them in 3200x1200@85hz for dualhead desktop. and running one of them for games at 1024x768@160hz for games, couple that with my mouse, the smoothest gameplay in the world

, i feel more accurate, my scores are good (out of practice) and holy crap, the color is so beautiful, oranges are so vibrant it almost feels natural, even to play old games, like cs 1.6. 100 fps, 160hz, less room for screen splitting and 16x AF, i feel like a god when i play.

sadly i grabbed the last 2 21"s, they have 1 19" left, wich i got the other for my dad, and my sisters each got one of the 17"s its nice having all trinitrons in here.

the monitors required minimal work, they are used, theres a small scratch in one of the 17's but the 21"s came rpetty much brand new, with original cables and stuff. and the 19" had a dust problem. and some dirty finger prints ont he oustide, little cleaning and perfect.

they are very sensative to electronic noise, like i had one of my soeakers about 3 feet from it, and i could get the screen to vibrate at the same freq as whatever the bass was on my speakers. did a little reorganising. and now i just need a new pc, but im waiting for conroe.

going to drop an e6600 and a radeon x1900xtx on a gigabyte lga 775 board. planning on 4 gigs of DDR2 1066, but the rest of its undecided, as i only make $11 usd an hour with my permanent job, and studio work is so rare. i wont even include studio profits.

EDIT: www.erpcsales.com

30th Jun 2006, 06:21 PM	#11 (permalink)
Chai Administrator Join Date: 6 Oct 2002 Location: Maranello Posts: 28,128 Reputation: 4649 Rep Power: 82	There's no such thing as perfect. Good luck finding a monitor that suits you. __________________ Chai (Contributor & Forum Admin) http://www.techarp.com/

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Papercut Hold me back! I can't stop posting!!! Join Date: 14 Jul 2004 Location: Singapore! Posts: 5,124 Reputation: 2630 Rep Power: 37	True Chai beginning to lose faith in Dell moneytors now? I think I read about this latency issue before, on [H] forums...I think some of them made an observation about the 2405 and that when you moved the mouse, it took a while for the movement to register onscreen. They termed it "input lag" or something. Personally I would always recommend the Viewsonic VX series for good monitors with fast response rates. __________________ "Use in a cool dry place away from direct sunlight. Keep out of reach of n00bs. Overclock within 24 hours of opening. Do not read instructions before proceeding, do not use only as directed. May cause frustration, late nights and empty wallets. If symptoms persist please consult your hardware professional."

1st Jul 2006, 09:56 AM	#14 (permalink)
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5th Jul 2006, 11:55 AM	#15 (permalink)
xinoxide Just Started Join Date: 25 Jun 2006 Location: Naples Florida Posts: 40 Reputation: 0 Rep Power: 0	same reason i didnt keep my mx1000, and am kinda turned off by LCD's but i would like to get a wireless keyboard and mouse agains, since i got a TV with a nice picture from my PC, id like to be able to sit on my couch in my room and play around. __________________ Dynamix Studio rig: Amd athlon x2 4800 \| MSI K8N neo4 \| 4x 1Gb OCz Gold GX \| Radeon x850xt \| Radeon 9000 pci \| 2x 15" LCD's \|1x 19" LCD 1x projector \| 4x raid0 barracuda 250's \| Digidesign protools HD\|3 [$soundcard>$house] \| ultrasone proline750 headphones -peak recording:32 simultaneous 32bit 96 khz wav tracks

5th Jul 2006, 06:53 PM	#16 (permalink)
Max_87 h@x! Join Date: 11 Aug 2003 Location: the land of bandwidth cap Posts: 11,446 Reputation: 2090 Rep Power: 38	About the color banding issue on the DELL moneytors, they already fixed it since Rev. A02. Only the older revisions have serious color banding problems when using DVI input. I ran a gradient test the 2007WFP (Rev. A02) on both VGA and DVI and both look exactly the same. Your eyes have to be like ~5cm from the LCD to notice any color banding and it is only visible on gradient tests, and so far I have not noticed any color banding during normal usage. __________________ Max_87 Tech ARP http://www.techarp.com Dell Studio 15 / P7350 / 3GB DDR2 / Radeon HD 3450 / 250GB 7200RPM / 15" @ 1920x1200 E8600 @ 4.4GHz 1.36v / Asus P5E3 Deluxe / 2x2GB DDR3 / Radeon X1800 / Barracuda 7200.9 120GB / 7200.10 320GB x2 / Caviar SE16 WD5000AAKS / WD6400AAKS x2 / Dell 2007FP x2 / Silverstone ST56F

13th Jul 2006, 10:32 AM	#18 (permalink)
Terminator Newbie Join Date: 29 Sep 2004 Posts: 8 Reputation: 0 Rep Power: 0	Well my friend(s), good luck trying to find a good CRT monitor at this point in time and in the future. I feel everyones pain that are trying to find a good quality CRT monitor. At least in the USA. CRT monitors are disapearing very fast here nowadays . The industry is just trying to get rid of them in favor of LCD's . I guess the manufacture's believe that they can manufacture them cheaper than the CRT's monitors now. And you guys know its all about money and budgets. And, like any new technology. These new monitors are very expensive to the consumer compared to their CRT counterparts at the moment. However, they will come down in price eventually. I just bought a Dell 2407 Monitor a few days ago for $747.15 from DELL (revision A02 Mexico the newest revision). And, I have no banding issues what so ever in the Desktop Mode. I believe the banding is caused by the internal processor in the display and that issue was fixed with the newer revision. So, if any of you guys get one of these 2407's from Dell in the future. Get the A02 version and run it in Desktop Mode and you should be safe. Cheers

15th Jul 2006, 03:35 PM	#19 (permalink)
xinoxide Just Started Join Date: 25 Jun 2006 Location: Naples Florida Posts: 40 Reputation: 0 Rep Power: 0	hah, i managed to find a great deal on 21" sony trinitrons, i got a pair of sony trinitron Sony CPD-G520P's these things are amazing, im running them in 3200x1200@85hz for dualhead desktop. and running one of them for games at 1024x768@160hz for games, couple that with my mouse, the smoothest gameplay in the world , i feel more accurate, my scores are good (out of practice) and holy crap, the color is so beautiful, oranges are so vibrant it almost feels natural, even to play old games, like cs 1.6. 100 fps, 160hz, less room for screen splitting and 16x AF, i feel like a god when i play. sadly i grabbed the last 2 21"s, they have 1 19" left, wich i got the other for my dad, and my sisters each got one of the 17"s its nice having all trinitrons in here. the monitors required minimal work, they are used, theres a small scratch in one of the 17's but the 21"s came rpetty much brand new, with original cables and stuff. and the 19" had a dust problem. and some dirty finger prints ont he oustide, little cleaning and perfect. they are very sensative to electronic noise, like i had one of my soeakers about 3 feet from it, and i could get the screen to vibrate at the same freq as whatever the bass was on my speakers. did a little reorganising. and now i just need a new pc, but im waiting for conroe. going to drop an e6600 and a radeon x1900xtx on a gigabyte lga 775 board. planning on 4 gigs of DDR2 1066, but the rest of its undecided, as i only make $11 usd an hour with my permanent job, and studio work is so rare. i wont even include studio profits. EDIT: www.erpcsales.com __________________ Dynamix Studio rig: Amd athlon x2 4800 \| MSI K8N neo4 \| 4x 1Gb OCz Gold GX \| Radeon x850xt \| Radeon 9000 pci \| 2x 15" LCD's \|1x 19" LCD 1x projector \| 4x raid0 barracuda 250's \| Digidesign protools HD\|3 [$soundcard>$house] \| ultrasone proline750 headphones -peak recording:32 simultaneous 32bit 96 khz wav tracks Last edited by xinoxide : 15th Jul 2006 at 03:41 PM.