AGP vs PCIe x_? - Page 2

Mac Daddy · 27th Dec 2007, 09:02 PM

I agree .....

EVIL_SoMEoNE · 28th Dec 2007, 12:19 AM

ok so i am switching to dr2 today or tomorrow and i will be getting x1950 pro(agp) soon, then when i have money i sell my mobo, buy pcie X16 mobo, swap my x1950 with pcie version and i swap my cpu with some never dual core model - all of that in one week or so....
good plan?

Adrian Wong · 28th Dec 2007, 12:24 AM

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Originally Posted by EVIL_SoMEoNE

ok so i am switching to dr2 today or tomorrow and i will be getting x1950 pro(agp) soon, then when i have money i sell my mobo, buy pcie X16 mobo, swap my x1950 with pcie version and i swap my cpu with some never dual core model - all of that in one week or so....
good plan?

Hmm.. If you can afford it, I would recommend putting off your small upgrade and totally upgrade to a new PCI Express system with a dual-core CPU and a faster graphics card.

Chai · 28th Dec 2007, 08:49 AM

Why do you still want to get X1950 AGP?

The_YongGrand · 28th Dec 2007, 09:14 AM

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Originally Posted by EVIL_SoMEoNE

ok so i am switching to dr2 today or tomorrow and i will be getting x1950 pro(agp) soon, then when i have money i sell my mobo, buy pcie X16 mobo, swap my x1950 with pcie version and i swap my cpu with some never dual core model - all of that in one week or so....
good plan?

Haha - switching to DDR2 is a very good choice since RAM prices are rock-bottom... but getting an X1950 AGP isn't - they are very expensive.

I personally suggest getting an X1950 PCI-E like the others said - I have purchased one and it's well and good. (of course it isn't really up to the task when I play Crysis at high settings.) The PCI-E are the mainstream nowadays and getting AGP systems are pretty tough too.

For a budget CPU change, I recommend the E2140 or E2160 - they are nice, cheap little gems, and could be whooping Pentium D's back in terms of price/performance ratio! Plus, they game pretty well too when overclocked.

Chai · 28th Dec 2007, 09:18 AM

I think you should wait a little longer, save more money, get everything together and sell your old system.

Since you can afford X1950 Pro AGP, what's another mid range motherboard to you...

Mac Daddy · 28th Dec 2007, 09:30 AM

I would upgrade the mobo first as mentioned and DDR2 is cheap picking some up myself even though I am not upgrading right away ... check this price out after rebate ... how can I not pick some up

Canada Computers - Memory > Desktop Memory > DDR2 800 PC2-6400+ : OCZ (OCZ2P800R22GK) DDR2 PC2-6400 800MHz Platinum XTC Revision 2 2GB (2x1024MB) Dual Channel Kit.

On the X1950 AGP I also agree with the others save it for a nice PCIE card

EVIL_SoMEoNE · 28th Dec 2007, 10:13 AM

mhm ok i will get ddr2 tomorrox(kingmax is ultra cheap)
and start saving money for graphics card, when i ge enough money for the card and some extra, i will sell my mobo and cpu and with the money i get from that, plus that "extra", i will buy something decent(E4500 probably), and buy a new card(1950 seems nice, 3850 is in the same price range but ill see) and i will be done... i hope
will be done in march if everything goes well
btw what are these pcie2.0 things? are they expensive and should i get the board that has 2.0?
thanks

Mac Daddy · 28th Dec 2007, 10:58 AM

Most welcome and glad to help out a bit

Any Intel P35 or above chipset if I remember correctly will support CrossfireX or Crossfire 2.0. This is for the newer generation on ATI GPU's as used in the HD3850 and HD3870.

On PCIE x 2 and thats what I think you were referring too they support TV tuners and upcoming audio cards, etc ... might be handy to have a couple around they essentially take place of standard PCI devices

A word of advise if you are planning on running Crossfire(X) and using those PCIE x 2 slots go with the X38 chipset as we found out P35 cascades those when running Crossfire and you can't use them.

EVIL_SoMEoNE · 28th Dec 2007, 11:19 AM

yeah thanks that could be useful in future

i was actually thinking of pcie x16 2.0
i was reading something about it somewhere and its some sort of well .... bus or aditional power connection or something... only required for newest and upcoming cards. maybe. also i think ive heard that pcie x16 2.0 cards will be able to run on "normal" pcie.
maybe. thats just something ive read last week, cant remember where...
well anyways

28th Dec 2007, 08:49 AM	#14 (permalink)
Chai Administrator Join Date: 6 Oct 2002 Location: Maranello Posts: 26,350 Reputation: 3879 Rep Power: 71	Why do you still want to get X1950 AGP? __________________ Chai (Contributor & Forum Admin) http://www.techarp.com/

28th Dec 2007, 09:18 AM	#16 (permalink)
Chai Administrator Join Date: 6 Oct 2002 Location: Maranello Posts: 26,350 Reputation: 3879 Rep Power: 71	I think you should wait a little longer, save more money, get everything together and sell your old system. Since you can afford X1950 Pro AGP, what's another mid range motherboard to you... __________________ Chai (Contributor & Forum Admin) http://www.techarp.com/

27th Dec 2007, 09:02 PM	#11 (permalink)
Mac Daddy Pickin' Da Gitfiddle Join Date: 19 Nov 2007 Location: Canada Posts: 2,048 Reputation: 802 Rep Power: 11	I agree .....

28th Dec 2007, 12:19 AM	#12 (permalink)
EVIL_SoMEoNE "0104" Join Date: 4 Apr 2007 Location: Zagreb, croatia Posts: 35 Reputation: 0 Rep Power: 0	ok so i am switching to dr2 today or tomorrow and i will be getting x1950 pro(agp) soon, then when i have money i sell my mobo, buy pcie X16 mobo, swap my x1950 with pcie version and i swap my cpu with some never dual core model - all of that in one week or so.... good plan?

28th Dec 2007, 09:30 AM	#17 (permalink)
Mac Daddy Pickin' Da Gitfiddle Join Date: 19 Nov 2007 Location: Canada Posts: 2,048 Reputation: 802 Rep Power: 11	I would upgrade the mobo first as mentioned and DDR2 is cheap picking some up myself even though I am not upgrading right away ... check this price out after rebate ... how can I not pick some up Canada Computers - Memory > Desktop Memory > DDR2 800 PC2-6400+ : OCZ (OCZ2P800R22GK) DDR2 PC2-6400 800MHz Platinum XTC Revision 2 2GB (2x1024MB) Dual Channel Kit. On the X1950 AGP I also agree with the others save it for a nice PCIE card

28th Dec 2007, 10:13 AM	#18 (permalink)
EVIL_SoMEoNE "0104" Join Date: 4 Apr 2007 Location: Zagreb, croatia Posts: 35 Reputation: 0 Rep Power: 0	mhm ok i will get ddr2 tomorrox(kingmax is ultra cheap) and start saving money for graphics card, when i ge enough money for the card and some extra, i will sell my mobo and cpu and with the money i get from that, plus that "extra", i will buy something decent(E4500 probably), and buy a new card(1950 seems nice, 3850 is in the same price range but ill see) and i will be done... i hope will be done in march if everything goes well btw what are these pcie2.0 things? are they expensive and should i get the board that has 2.0? thanks

28th Dec 2007, 10:58 AM	#19 (permalink)
Mac Daddy Pickin' Da Gitfiddle Join Date: 19 Nov 2007 Location: Canada Posts: 2,048 Reputation: 802 Rep Power: 11	Most welcome and glad to help out a bit Any Intel P35 or above chipset if I remember correctly will support CrossfireX or Crossfire 2.0. This is for the newer generation on ATI GPU's as used in the HD3850 and HD3870. On PCIE x 2 and thats what I think you were referring too they support TV tuners and upcoming audio cards, etc ... might be handy to have a couple around they essentially take place of standard PCI devices A word of advise if you are planning on running Crossfire(X) and using those PCIE x 2 slots go with the X38 chipset as we found out P35 cascades those when running Crossfire and you can't use them.

28th Dec 2007, 11:19 AM	#20 (permalink)
EVIL_SoMEoNE "0104" Join Date: 4 Apr 2007 Location: Zagreb, croatia Posts: 35 Reputation: 0 Rep Power: 0	yeah thanks that could be useful in future i was actually thinking of pcie x16 2.0 i was reading something about it somewhere and its some sort of well .... bus or aditional power connection or something... only required for newest and upcoming cards. maybe. also i think ive heard that pcie x16 2.0 cards will be able to run on "normal" pcie. maybe. thats just something ive read last week, cant remember where... well anyways