GPU ViVo vs. Adaptec ?

GreenVJ · 27th Apr 2008, 01:26 PM

I've recently been given the task of converting my family's DV and VHS tape collection (unedited-weddings and holidays...600 hours worth...yes, large extended family!). In the past I've used an Adaptec AVC-2310 video capture device, but results have been varied to say the least- in part due to the limited (and problematical) software bundle it came with (Sonic MyDVD,ArcSoft Showbiz).
My question is : Is there a reasonable GPU with ViVo function on the market which could achieve MPEG-2 capture better (and preferably faster) than my present USB device?
I presently run a Palit 7600GS Sonic which I was looking at upgrading in any case- preferably to 8800GT/GTS/GTX/9800GTX level of performance - my budget would be limited to approx $NZ600 which would encompass all but but OC 9800.
And no, I've never owned an ATI card.

iModAMD · 27th Apr 2008, 09:47 PM

Well... i did this alot of times... normaly every videocards have an good quality of capture...(if you have propers drivers)

Here to ways to do it

(and here it worked)

I have an usb tv module who have inputs... i tryed and the quality was so - so ... so i opted with my videocard... who was really better (if you have the propers drivers) if not the quality sucks

Adrian Wong · 30th Apr 2008, 02:22 AM

Hmm.. AFAIK, the video capture speed is always real-time, meaning it takes 60 seconds for you to capture 60 seconds of footage.

GreenVJ · 30th Apr 2008, 05:53 AM

I should have explained myself better. My problem lies with with software bundle I have to use with the Adaptec. In capturing the raw video I seem to be limited to using Sonic MyDVD 5.2 - I've tried using other capture software (Premiere Pro, InterVideo products) and have had (seemingly) driver issues (non-recognition of hardware/capturing terminated by software before completion). The faster part of the equation stems from the time it takes Sonic MyDVD to build the resultant MPEG-2 file- 35-40 minutes is "normal" - whether it be 1Gb or 5Gb- and that's assuming the process is completed, which is in the order of 75%. No fun if you've just spent two hours downloading someones anniversary from VHS. I'm not a Sonic MyDVD fan as you can guess.

My system is fairly antiquated : Gigabyte 865PE/2Gb DDR-400/3.2 P4 Northwood/7600GS...but if GPU video capture is not constrained by a particular software application and offers comparable quality then out it goes in favour of the right GPU/C2D/Mobo that can best meet my needs- I'm gonna go out on a limb here and say my DDR-400 (if not the cpu) is going to bottleneck any performance upgrade I try to achieve with a new graphics card.

Thanks for your imput- much appreciated.

Adrian Wong · 30th Apr 2008, 02:20 PM

Yeah, that's true. You will need to get better software if you want better encoding. Have you tried the newer versions of Premiere Pro?

Actually, it doesn't matter whether you have a graphics card or onboard GPU. The video feed is directly encoded by the CPU, not the GPU.

miahman · 30th Apr 2008, 06:12 PM

but how would you connect you VCR to the PC. is it with those red/yellow/white wires?

27th Apr 2008, 01:26 PM	#1 (permalink)
GreenVJ Newbie Join Date: 27 Apr 2008 Posts: 4 Reputation: 0 Rep Power: 0	GPU ViVo vs. Adaptec ? I've recently been given the task of converting my family's DV and VHS tape collection (unedited-weddings and holidays...600 hours worth...yes, large extended family!). In the past I've used an Adaptec AVC-2310 video capture device, but results have been varied to say the least- in part due to the limited (and problematical) software bundle it came with (Sonic MyDVD,ArcSoft Showbiz). My question is : Is there a reasonable GPU with ViVo function on the market which could achieve MPEG-2 capture better (and preferably faster) than my present USB device? I presently run a Palit 7600GS Sonic which I was looking at upgrading in any case- preferably to 8800GT/GTS/GTX/9800GTX level of performance - my budget would be limited to approx $NZ600 which would encompass all but but OC 9800. And no, I've never owned an ATI card.

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30th Apr 2008, 02:20 PM	#5 (permalink)
Adrian Wong Da Boss Join Date: 10 Oct 2002 Location: In front of my BenQ Joybook 7000 notebook! Posts: 29,426 Reputation: 2830 Rep Power: 63	Yeah, that's true. You will need to get better software if you want better encoding. Have you tried the newer versions of Premiere Pro? Actually, it doesn't matter whether you have a graphics card or onboard GPU. The video feed is directly encoded by the CPU, not the GPU. __________________ Dr. Adrian Wong Tech ARP \| Blog @ Tech ARP \| The Free Trade Zone DYKT : The only offshore account I have is at the sand bank? Keep Tech ARP free! Visit our sponsors! We need PROGRAMMERS and TECHNICAL WRITERS! Contact us if you are a hot shot programmer or technical writer! My items for sale : 50x SD Card \| Memory Stick PRO \| Cyclone Energy Saver \| Seiko SS watch \| Tiger/Carlsberg beer jugs \| Travel Speakers \| Motorola V600 \| Nokia N90 SOLD! \| New Lowepro Mini Trekker AW Other items for sale @ the FTZ : Zalman CNPS9500 LED @ $20 \| Zalman CNPS7700 Cu @ $20 \| Zalman CNPS7000 Cu @ $20 \| Swarovski bracelet watches \| Dell 17" LCD \| Hi-Fi speakers \| English DIVX movies \| HP LaserJet toners! \| Office chairs

27th Apr 2008, 09:47 PM	#2 (permalink)
iModAMD Warming up Join Date: 14 Apr 2008 Location: Montréal,Québec,Canada Posts: 145 Reputation: 71 Rep Power: 1	Well... i did this alot of times... normaly every videocards have an good quality of capture...(if you have propers drivers) Here to ways to do it (and here it worked) I have an usb tv module who have inputs... i tryed and the quality was so - so ... so i opted with my videocard... who was really better (if you have the propers drivers) if not the quality sucks

30th Apr 2008, 05:53 AM	#4 (permalink)
GreenVJ Newbie Join Date: 27 Apr 2008 Posts: 4 Reputation: 0 Rep Power: 0	I should have explained myself better. My problem lies with with software bundle I have to use with the Adaptec. In capturing the raw video I seem to be limited to using Sonic MyDVD 5.2 - I've tried using other capture software (Premiere Pro, InterVideo products) and have had (seemingly) driver issues (non-recognition of hardware/capturing terminated by software before completion). The faster part of the equation stems from the time it takes Sonic MyDVD to build the resultant MPEG-2 file- 35-40 minutes is "normal" - whether it be 1Gb or 5Gb- and that's assuming the process is completed, which is in the order of 75%. No fun if you've just spent two hours downloading someones anniversary from VHS. I'm not a Sonic MyDVD fan as you can guess. My system is fairly antiquated : Gigabyte 865PE/2Gb DDR-400/3.2 P4 Northwood/7600GS...but if GPU video capture is not constrained by a particular software application and offers comparable quality then out it goes in favour of the right GPU/C2D/Mobo that can best meet my needs- I'm gonna go out on a limb here and say my DDR-400 (if not the cpu) is going to bottleneck any performance upgrade I try to achieve with a new graphics card. Thanks for your imput- much appreciated.

30th Apr 2008, 06:12 PM	#6 (permalink)
miahman I'm a regular Join Date: 20 Apr 2008 Posts: 293 Reputation: 116 Rep Power: 2	but how would you connect you VCR to the PC. is it with those red/yellow/white wires?