AGP 8x 128MB 128Bit graphics card into a AGP 4x board?

martypastor · 4th Jun 2008, 07:22 PM

Well I dont know about this because my card (Winfast A180BT/NVIDIA GeForce MX 4000) is having memory problems.
From 128MB to 64MB! this just started on a BSOD error and flickering and garbling screen. It has been tested to other computers but no luck. Still 64MB 128Bit.
-Is this the reason why my card is 64MB not 128MB because i put it into a AGP 4x Board?
Thanks

Lacus · 4th Jun 2008, 08:12 PM

From the source i check from the internet,most people actually mention that will mean your current GPU card is dying..Are you actually using the lastest gpu driver for your GPU?

Rraven · 4th Jun 2008, 09:03 PM

Like I said in the other thread 8X AGP uses 0.8v signaling and 4X AGP uses 1.5v. While the 0.7v difference may not seem like a lot it actually is quite a bit.

8X cards may work in 4X slots but if not initially damaged from the overvoltage they would prob degrade much faster than would be normal.

So basically yes most likely your card is going out because of this.

Chai · 4th Jun 2008, 10:58 PM

8x and 4x should be backward compatible.

belikethat · 4th Jun 2008, 11:31 PM

check out some references from here about 4x and 8x compatible

Changing graphic card issues

there should be no problem with 8x card on agp 4x unless ur motherboard is does meet the standard

when did it happen btw? was that card working before in ur agp 4x ?

DarKSeeD · 5th Jun 2008, 06:41 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Chai

8x and 4x should be backward compatible.

Depends on the voltage.
Most of them should work just fine but I found 2 cards so far, 1 Asus and 1 Chaintech, not working properly because of the voltage. In Windows worked fine but when a game or 3D app was started the system crashed with BSOD and so on.

Chai · 5th Jun 2008, 07:18 AM

Are you sure that's voltage related?

DarKSeeD · 6th Jun 2008, 12:18 AM

Yup, on an MSI (845 E-Max) board I had the problems but on a ASUS board no. And on the MSI site it was stated it will accept 1.5V only cards. Both mobos were socket 478.

Lacus · 6th Jun 2008, 01:50 AM

wow, first time i heard it depends on voltage >.<

DarKSeeD · 6th Jun 2008, 04:12 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Lacus

wow, first time i heard it depends on voltage >.<

Well, that was my case, 4-5 years ago!
From MSI site (archives)

Intel® 845E (593 FC-BGA) Chipset
- Support 400/533 MHz Intel®NetBurst micro-architecture bus
- Support AGP 4x slot (1.5V only)
- Support 100/133MHz FSB

The videocard at that time was a FX5500 or 5700 from Asus.
The system was: MSI 845 E-Max, Intel Northwood@2.4GHz, 1GB (2x512) DDR Kingmax.

4th Jun 2008, 07:22 PM	#1 (permalink)
martypastor Just Started Join Date: 14 May 2008 Posts: 44 Reputation: 0 Rep Power: 0	AGP 8x 128MB 128Bit graphics card into a AGP 4x board? Well I dont know about this because my card (Winfast A180BT/NVIDIA GeForce MX 4000) is having memory problems. From 128MB to 64MB! this just started on a BSOD error and flickering and garbling screen. It has been tested to other computers but no luck. Still 64MB 128Bit. -Is this the reason why my card is 64MB not 128MB because i put it into a AGP 4x Board? Thanks __________________ 464150000212011041151116100061606

4th Jun 2008, 08:12 PM	#2 (permalink)
Lacus Super Active Join Date: 28 Mar 2008 Location: Some gundam factory o.o Posts: 1,302 Reputation: 180 Rep Power: 4	From the source i check from the internet,most people actually mention that will mean your current GPU card is dying..Are you actually using the lastest gpu driver for your GPU? __________________ GUNDAM 00[Intel Xeon E3110 E0 Stock\|Asus Rampage Maximus Formula (Rampage Bios Mod)\|Gigabyte HD4850 512MB GDDR3+T-Rad2\|4x2gb DDR2 1000Mhz OCZ SLI-Ready Edition\|Western Digital WD6400AAKS 640GB\|Creative X-FI XtremeMusic\|Creative Inspire P5800\|Silverstone Strider ST56F\|Acer X233H\|Keyboard=Microsoft Sidewinder X6\|Logitech MX518\|Lian Li PC-7YCF]

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Chai Administrator Join Date: 6 Oct 2002 Location: Maranello Posts: 27,884 Reputation: 4630 Rep Power: 81	8x and 4x should be backward compatible. __________________ Chai (Contributor & Forum Admin) http://www.techarp.com/

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belikethat Active Join Date: 25 Apr 2006 Posts: 598 Reputation: 58 Rep Power: 4	check out some references from here about 4x and 8x compatible Changing graphic card issues there should be no problem with 8x card on agp 4x unless ur motherboard is does meet the standard when did it happen btw? was that card working before in ur agp 4x ? __________________ Control Panel Settings & Options Edit Signature

5th Jun 2008, 07:18 AM	#7 (permalink)
Chai Administrator Join Date: 6 Oct 2002 Location: Maranello Posts: 27,884 Reputation: 4630 Rep Power: 81	Are you sure that's voltage related? __________________ Chai (Contributor & Forum Admin) http://www.techarp.com/

4th Jun 2008, 09:03 PM	#3 (permalink)
Rraven Just Started Join Date: 13 May 2008 Location: Blairsville, GA Posts: 50 Reputation: 129 Rep Power: 0	Like I said in the other thread 8X AGP uses 0.8v signaling and 4X AGP uses 1.5v. While the 0.7v difference may not seem like a lot it actually is quite a bit. 8X cards may work in 4X slots but if not initially damaged from the overvoltage they would prob degrade much faster than would be normal. So basically yes most likely your card is going out because of this.

6th Jun 2008, 12:18 AM	#8 (permalink)
DarKSeeD BOG Translator Join Date: 30 Oct 2004 Location: Sighisoara, Romania Posts: 336 Reputation: 101 Rep Power: 7	Yup, on an MSI (845 E-Max) board I had the problems but on a ASUS board no. And on the MSI site it was stated it will accept 1.5V only cards. Both mobos were socket 478. __________________ Gizas! what a mess

6th Jun 2008, 01:50 AM	#9 (permalink)
Lacus Super Active Join Date: 28 Mar 2008 Location: Some gundam factory o.o Posts: 1,302 Reputation: 180 Rep Power: 4	wow, first time i heard it depends on voltage >.< __________________ GUNDAM 00[Intel Xeon E3110 E0 Stock\|Asus Rampage Maximus Formula (Rampage Bios Mod)\|Gigabyte HD4850 512MB GDDR3+T-Rad2\|4x2gb DDR2 1000Mhz OCZ SLI-Ready Edition\|Western Digital WD6400AAKS 640GB\|Creative X-FI XtremeMusic\|Creative Inspire P5800\|Silverstone Strider ST56F\|Acer X233H\|Keyboard=Microsoft Sidewinder X6\|Logitech MX518\|Lian Li PC-7YCF]