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Old 22nd Jun 2008, 07:10 PM   #11 (permalink)
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Right now, the GPU acceleration of PhysX may be in its infancy but when it really kicks off, NVIDIA will have something really solid to hang ATI with.

Probably why they launched PhysX for their GPUs even though just two applications support it at the moment. They probably want to steal as much wind from the Radeon HD 4850/4870's sails as they can.
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Old 22nd Jun 2008, 10:58 PM   #12 (permalink)
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Yes ATI needed that price point to remain competitive with the 9600gt
4850 is already much faster than 9600GT and t's faster than 9800GTX in most cases. In fact, it even managed to come close to GTX 260 in one or two benchmarks.
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4850 is already much faster than 9600GT and t's faster than 9800GTX in most cases. In fact, it even managed to come close to GTX 260 in one or two benchmarks.
Depends on the power and efficiency of the GPU. Keep in mind the G92 will not O/C as well as the G94 and not familiar with the GPU on the 4850.

If you check the PhysX thread on this forum the Vantage scores posted were run on Gens Wolfdale E8200 with an 8800GTS and mine using an E6550 with a 9600gt 512 750/1900/950 GPU max@45C. I am not even pushing this 9600gt yet
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Depends on the power and efficiency of the GPU. Keep in mind the G92 will not O/C as well as the G94 and not familiar with the GPU on the 4850.

If you check the PhysX thread on this forum the Vantage scores posted were run on Gens Wolfdale E8200 with an 8800GTS and mine using an E6550 with a 9600gt 512 750/1900/950 GPU max@45C. I am not even pushing this 9600gt yet
My G92 overclocks quite well, more than 100MHz on the core easily.
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My G92 overclocks quite well, more than 100MHz on the core easily.
And what are your temps ?
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Depends on the power and efficiency of the GPU. Keep in mind the G92 will not O/C as well as the G94 and not familiar with the GPU on the 4850.
4850 is already as fast as 9800GTX+ (wins some and loses some benchmarks, minimal difference). There is no way for a G94 to come anywhere close to a stock 4850/9800GTX+, unless you voltmod it and overclock it much further. Keep in mind that 9800GTX+ already runs at 738/1836/2200.

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Most 8800GTS 512 can reach 700-750MHz range on the core easily with stock cooler. Some even manage to hit 800MHz+, perhaps with better cooling.
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My 8800GTS could do 800MHz easily. The only problem now is the RAM getting really hot. I bought some RAMsinks, but never get a chance to install it yet. Good cooling is all it takes to reach higher speed, since the stock cooler is really weak, and I'm not taking about LN2.
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4850 is already as fast as 9800GTX+ (wins some and loses some benchmarks, minimal difference). There is no way for a G94 to come anywhere close to a stock 4850/9800GTX+, unless you voltmod it and overclock it much further. Keep in mind that 9800GTX+ already runs at 738/1836/2200.
Who mentioned GTX ?

On the 4850 I want to see some more benchmarks from another source. Let see maybe if Lacus can post some. Don't get me wrong I hope these new ATI cards kick a** but I want to see more than one set of results before going to crazy


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My 8800GTS could do 800MHz easily. The only problem now is the RAM getting really hot. I bought some RAMsinks, but never get a chance to install it yet. Good cooling is all it takes to reach higher speed, since the stock cooler is really weak, and I'm not taking about LN2.
Yep sure it could and so could this 9600gt easily with an aftermarket cooler. What GPU are you going to O/C the core 100MHz at still only reach 45C under load ... seriously ?
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OK before we get way off topic here lets post some facts.

Test system in Chai's link for the 4850 benchmarks:
PC Perspective - AMD Radeon HD 4850 512MB Preview - RV770 Discovered

3DMark6 scores using this setup:
PC Perspective - AMD Radeon HD 4850 512MB Preview - RV770 Discovered

This 9600GT at stock speeds on an E6550 scores close to 11k. And I can't match 11099 by O/Cing it? Lets put this card in PC Perspective's test system and I bet the score in 3DMark6 will be almost identical to the 4850.
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You are forgetting that 9800GTX can be overclocked too.
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