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Old 24th Jun 2008, 07:22 PM   #31 (permalink)
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a pair of geforce 9600gt is faster than a 9800GTX, so i have reason to believe it will also beat 4850 in term of performance. the G92 needs massive amount of memory bandwidth, which it's not getting enough from its 256bit mem interface, which is why when two 64 cores 9600gt runs in pair, it leaves the gtx to cry alone, despite having the same amount of shader processors.

but a single 9600gt can't possibly get infront of the 4850. it's too much to ask.. on average a 9600gt can hit about 760MHz max. and if the XFX XXX alpha doggy, which has a stock speed of 740Mhz, can't leap in front of RV770, an additional 20MHz won't be able to improve the situation by much. unless of course you push the shader clock like mad, still you need a heck lot of luck to go higher than 1800MHz
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a pair of geforce 9600gt is faster than a 9800GTX, so i have reason to believe it will also beat 4850 in term of performance. the G92 needs massive amount of memory bandwidth, which it's not getting enough from its 256bit mem interface, which is why when two 64 cores 9600gt runs in pair, it leaves the gtx to cry alone, despite having the same amount of shader processors.

but a single 9600gt can't possibly get infront of the 4850. it's too much to ask.. on average a 9600gt can hit about 760MHz max. and if the XFX XXX alpha doggy, which has a stock speed of 740Mhz, can't leap in front of RV770, an additional 20MHz won't be able to improve the situation alot.
A single card will come very close in a lot of areas. On SLI I may try that out and keep in mind 2 x 9600GT are still 250-300CAD for both cards
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=/...in terms of value,4850 owns...almost..close to 9800gtx =/...since when do we see mid range card these close to the higher end cards?
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Will do but keep in mind I am making an observation here and considering the price difference its apples and oranges. I'm not spending the extra money on a 9800GTX to test it out either. Especially considering it is using 4 year old technology. I will wait for something newer and cooler which is what the G94 GPU on the 9600gt is. On the other tests will run some but I can easily reach 12K on 3dmark6 used in the article posted ... and to be quite honest I never O/C this card to play games anyway. I don't need to !!
Precisely why there is no way for a 9600GT to beat or even match 4850, even after heavily overclocked. 4850/9800GTX is in a different class of it's own.

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In 3DMark06 default test or any CPU bottleneck tests. LOL

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Ownage! especially when you consider the price: $299 vs $649!
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a pair of geforce 9600gt is faster than a 9800GTX, so i have reason to believe it will also beat 4850 in term of performance. the G92 needs massive amount of memory bandwidth, which it's not getting enough from its 256bit mem interface, which is why when two 64 cores 9600gt runs in pair, it leaves the gtx to cry alone, despite having the same amount of shader processors.

but a single 9600gt can't possibly get infront of the 4850. it's too much to ask.. on average a 9600gt can hit about 760MHz max. and if the XFX XXX alpha doggy, which has a stock speed of 740Mhz, can't leap in front of RV770, an additional 20MHz won't be able to improve the situation by much. unless of course you push the shader clock like mad, still you need a heck lot of luck to go higher than 1800MHz
Not in all games, sometimes it's actually slower than a single 8800GTX. For example:

[H] Enthusiast - BFGTech 9600 GT OC in SLI vs. GeForce 8800 GTX

You can safely assume 9600GT SLI >= 9800GTX/4850 though.

This is why I'm never a fan of SLI/CF. I'll go for single card whenever possible.
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I have an inherent dislike for synthetic benchies. For me its real world or nothing at all. Gaming benchies always prove the difference in performance. Nothing like high res and AA/AF to differentiate product ranges.

As for 4850 and 9800GTX, it is pretty much neck to neck on most games.
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I have an inherent dislike for synthetic benchies. For me its real world or nothing at all. Gaming benchies always prove the difference in performance. Nothing like high res and AA/AF to differentiate product ranges.
there are t hose who live and die with 3dmark. benchies just put to satisfy them.
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Yeah there are people like that. And there really is nothing wrong with it either. It just does not paint a very conclusive image on things like games (aka real world).

Another detraction of CF for me is the PCI express lots on the P35 run at half bandwidth with two cards and I will lose my multi monitor support.
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Not in all games, sometimes it's actually slower than a single 8800GTX. For example:

[H] Enthusiast - BFGTech 9600 GT OC in SLI vs. GeForce 8800 GTX

You can safely assume 9600GT SLI >= 9800GTX/4850 though.

This is why I'm never a fan of SLI/CF. I'll go for single card whenever possible.
of course, some games dun scale very well on multigpu platform. for sli/crossfire, it's all about good driver work.. but generally yeah like you said, 9600gt SLI is faster than a single 9800gtx/4850.
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