need help choosing between ATI 4850 (1024mb), 4870 (512mb) and Nvidia 9800GTX+(512mb)

[Yukirin]

Originally Posted by Lacus

woot!! Yukirin Malaysian :O...Well, sorta prefer fully alluminium casings..IMO

I thought my location under my avatar is obvious Well seems like LianLi Casing would also be your preference as well Lacus seems most of LianLi casing are made of Alu'

Originally Posted by goldfries

Ehh, similar to CM690 la. I like it! no regrets getting the CM590.

haha. i never knew it existed until like last Saturday when my machine brokedown and i hunt for used casing.



Now the CM Centurion 2 is my work / AMD rig. CM 590 is my gaming / benchies rig. love the space! At least putting in GTX280 doesn't feel like over-stuffed luggage.

I envy you and others who live around KL. Easy to get second hand casing. As for my area, finding second hand casing is like finding needle in the beach. Btw, i corrected my casing name. Mine wasn't CM 690, I forgot to change that The reason I didn't get the CM 690 or CM 590 is because the price here is about RM 300+ that time. Due to the fact these casing were in high demand in KCH market around the time I was assembling my new rig, the shop owner purposely raise the price of these casings just to earn more(even more expensive than importing it from KL).

P.S: Did you test your casing by fitting in 8x 120mm fan while The CM690 can fit 7x 120mm fan only though

[Lacus]

Originally Posted by Unixlord

I generally prefer aluminum myself. However aluminum isn't without it's issues:

1)It's more expensive than steel and this pushes its price out of the bang-for-buck sector.
2)More vulnerable to Resonance. Self explanatory really. This is annoying as heck if it happens but with a bit of creativity it's resolvable.
3)More vulnerable to warping. Keep in mind most aluminum cases use 1.0mm aluminum to keep the price and weight down.

Points 3 and 2 are due to the structural properties of aluminum notably the much lower density (Which is a double edged blade, greatly reduced weight has its cost). While resonance and price can be countered, you can't really do much about the durability of full aluminum cases.

Weight is a big issue with fully loaded full towers, unless you have a forklift or are built like a ox. For mid towers I'm not so picky.

Well, not really..I got my casing which is almost the price range of the CM590 (which is not even fully aluminum).I don't really agree on point 2 and 3 =/.For point 2, which resonance are you refering to? Noise? Electrical?for point 3, even steel can have warping. Been using my casing so long and it does not have any warping Not all aluminum casing uses 1.00mm aluminum (some part may uses it but then it does not really matter that much to me ) But still, aluminum casing tends to last much longer than those semi or fully plastic casings?Full tower casing's weight? of cause it's heavy but then one does not need to keep moving the casing (with hardwares in it) around at home anyway
Btw yukirin, do drop me a msg if you wanna get any casings (new or old). I try and find a way to send it to you lor

[goldfries]

Originally Posted by Yukirin

I envy you and others who live around KL. Easy to get second hand casing.

i didn't get 2nd though. just bought new unit. easier. everything fresh.

eh guys - we're going off topic!

[Yukirin]

Yeah we are very off topic already. To poster, I guess you probably know the answer by now. Most people would go for ATI HD4870 from what I read and I do also prefer HD4870 if the budget is right.

[Unixlord]

Originally Posted by Lacus

Well, not really..I got my casing which is almost the price range of the CM590 (which is not even fully aluminum).I don't really agree on point 2 and 3 =/.For point 2, which resonance are you refering to? Noise? Electrical?for point 3, even steel can have warping. Been using my casing so long and it does not have any warping Not all aluminum casing uses 1.00mm aluminum (some part may uses it but then it does not really matter that much to me ) But still, aluminum casing tends to last much longer than those semi or fully plastic casings?Full tower casing's weight? of cause it's heavy but then one does not need to keep moving the casing (with hardwares in it) around at home anyway
Btw yukirin, do drop me a msg if you wanna get any casings (new or old). I try and find a way to send it to you lor

You can disagree with all of the points but that won't change anything. Confidentially THEY'RE FACTS also note the use of MORE VULNERABLE for points 2 and 3 nothing to dispute. For your information the resonance in mind is vibrational and while you might not have the experience to know it, it's a common enemy of aluminum. The fact remains that (as I said) most aluminum cases use 1.0mm aluminum, that's a MOST, not ALL. PLASTIC was never mentioned. Please mind the use of caps, I thought you might have a problem reading.

[Lacus]

It's not proven fact so i don't really care. Most casing uses 1.0mm? they don't. only on certain part point 2 and 3 don't really make sense... Lol, maybe you live somewhere that has earthquake or the casing you got is so crappy that it vibrates? UNLESS you got proof showing that all this will or MUST or ACTUALLY happens on aluminum casing (btw, do quote me which casing that you have encounter that problem ) Btw what happen to the thread starter?Btw we really went out of topic but then talking bout aluminum casing,may help the thread starter in choosing 1

[Chai]

Can you guys stop discussing about case? It's off topic. Create a new thread and continue.

Thanks.

[PsYkHoTiK]

Again, please stop discussing anything about casings (be it materials, or anything related to arguments).

[Unixlord]

The non-discussion is being resolved via PMs. Shocking shame that nobody is cutting in to clear things up, or maybe it's best if things are left alone. Anyhow ...

4870 is the choice until nvidia get the 55nm die shrink on GTX 260.

[PsYkHoTiK]

Clearing is fine, but there is a new thread button...

Nothing wrong with a good civil discussion.