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PowerSlide · 1st Mar 2008, 07:33 AM

bad bad bad nvidia..caught with pants down

techPowerUp! Review :: NVIDIA's shady trick to boost the GeForce 9600GT :: Page 1 / 4

adrian..plz test if this is true or not

Chai · 1st Mar 2008, 07:57 AM

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Originally Posted by PowerSlide

bad bad bad nvidia..caught with pants down

techPowerUp! Review :: NVIDIA's shady trick to boost the GeForce 9600GT :: Page 1 / 4

adrian..plz test if this is true or not

Yeah, I just got the news too.

Adrian Wong · 1st Mar 2008, 07:21 PM

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Originally Posted by PowerSlide

bad bad bad nvidia..caught with pants down

techPowerUp! Review :: NVIDIA's shady trick to boost the GeForce 9600GT :: Page 1 / 4

adrian..plz test if this is true or not

Hmm.. Logically, there's no reason for NVIDIA to cheat.

I may be missing the point here but it looks like the only one to benefit would be the graphics card manufacturer employing the trick to make their cards look faster than the competitor, even at the same "clock speed".

Mac Daddy · 2nd Mar 2008, 05:13 AM

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Originally Posted by Adrian Wong

Hmm.. Logically, there's no reason for NVIDIA to cheat.

I may be missing the point here but it looks like the only one to benefit would be the graphics card manufacturer employing the trick to make their cards look faster than the competitor, even at the same "clock speed".

They have done it more than once including in 2003 when I visited ATI. Terry and Chris were not impressed

They suck at taking legal action on boards that don't fall under international law too

Zenphic · 2nd Mar 2008, 10:55 AM

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Originally Posted by PowerSlide

bad bad bad nvidia..caught with pants down

techPowerUp! Review :: NVIDIA's shady trick to boost the GeForce 9600GT :: Page 1 / 4

adrian..plz test if this is true or not

Ohhh, that's sneaky. That's like haxing in a game

ZuePhok · 2nd Mar 2008, 01:17 PM

actually it happens to one of my XFX geforce 8800 gtx sample as well.
nothing much to get mad la, really.

probably related to how the clock generator and clock multiplier/divider work i supposed. the G80 (and G92) has a few frequency configurations running on the same die (shader, core..etc). perhaps 1mhz step increment just isn't possible.

IMO, another "oh! AMD is lying about its K8 memory frequency" case.

Adrian Wong · 2nd Mar 2008, 01:30 PM

To be honest, I don't see this being a problem for cards running at stock. The GeForce 9600 GT officially runs at 650 MHz core.

Whether the driver reports it as 650 MHz or 700 MHz really isn't important. What's important is how fast it is in the games we play.

Graphics card manufacturers have been selling cards with overclocked cores, so it doesn't make sense for them to lie about it, unless they just want to prove that their cards are "faster" than their competitors at the same clock speeds.

Of course, if it's NVIDIA's fault (with the driver), then all we can say is their engineers do not know how to multiply!

werty316 · 2nd Mar 2008, 03:20 PM

I would go for the 9600GT.

PowerSlide · 4th Mar 2008, 11:48 AM

so its not a big deal afterall

looks like u guys recommend 96gt all the way..im gona wait for 3870 price drop to think which card to buy

Mac Daddy · 4th Mar 2008, 08:13 PM

We should have some numbers up on the 9600gt soon bro and so will Adrian by the sounds of it so you can compare

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Adrian Wong Da Boss Join Date: 10 Oct 2002 Location: In front of my BenQ Joybook 7000 notebook! Posts: 29,102 Reputation: 2830 Rep Power: 63	To be honest, I don't see this being a problem for cards running at stock. The GeForce 9600 GT officially runs at 650 MHz core. Whether the driver reports it as 650 MHz or 700 MHz really isn't important. What's important is how fast it is in the games we play. Graphics card manufacturers have been selling cards with overclocked cores, so it doesn't make sense for them to lie about it, unless they just want to prove that their cards are "faster" than their competitors at the same clock speeds. Of course, if it's NVIDIA's fault (with the driver), then all we can say is their engineers do not know how to multiply! __________________ Dr. Adrian Wong Tech ARP \| Blog @ Tech ARP \| The Free Trade Zone DYKT : The only offshore account I have is at the sand bank? Keep Tech ARP free! Visit our sponsors! We need PROGRAMMERS and TECHNICAL WRITERS! Contact us if you are a hot shot programmer or technical writer! My items for sale : 50x SD Card \| Memory Stick PRO \| Cyclone Energy Saver \| Seiko SS watch \| Tiger/Carlsberg beer jugs \| Travel Speakers \| Motorola V600 \| Nokia N90 SOLD! \| New Lowepro Mini Trekker AW Other items for sale @ the FTZ : Zalman CNPS9500 LED @ $20 \| Zalman CNPS7700 Cu @ $20 \| Zalman CNPS7000 Cu @ $20 \| Swarovski bracelet watches \| Dell 17" LCD \| Hi-Fi speakers \| English DIVX movies \| HP LaserJet toners! \| Office chairs

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PowerSlide Super Active Join Date: 28 Aug 2004 Location: Penang, Malaysia Posts: 1,379 Reputation: 871 Rep Power: 13	bad bad bad nvidia..caught with pants down techPowerUp! Review :: NVIDIA's shady trick to boost the GeForce 9600GT :: Page 1 / 4 adrian..plz test if this is true or not

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PowerSlide Super Active Join Date: 28 Aug 2004 Location: Penang, Malaysia Posts: 1,379 Reputation: 871 Rep Power: 13	so its not a big deal afterall looks like u guys recommend 96gt all the way..im gona wait for 3870 price drop to think which card to buy

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Mac Daddy Pickin' Da Gitfiddle Join Date: 19 Nov 2007 Location: Canada Posts: 1,846 Reputation: 802 Rep Power: 10	We should have some numbers up on the 9600gt soon bro and so will Adrian by the sounds of it so you can compare