Which card???

Cyberwarrior · 12th May 2008, 11:37 AM

For a total new build.

BFG 8800GTX 768mb or BFG 9800GTX 512mb G92?

Mac Daddy · 12th May 2008, 07:11 PM

Pretty close in price and performance I think. Both use DDR3 ram and I think the 8800GTX with the extra ram (768mb) might actually perform better.

One thing to note though as I have a buddy running an 8800GTX is that NV has not released a driver for it since December 20, 2007. New drivers for the entire 9xxx series including the 9800GTX and my 9600GT were released April 1, 2008. Be warned and this is the way NV works you might see limited driver updates for the 8800 series or no further support at all

Cyberwarrior · 12th May 2008, 07:56 PM

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Originally Posted by Mac Daddy

Pretty close in price and performance I think. Both use DDR3 ram and I think the 8800GTX with the extra ram (768mb) might actually perform better.

One thing to note though as I have a buddy running an 8800GTX is that NV has not released a driver for it since December 20, 2007. New drivers for the entire 9xxx series including the 9800GTX and my 9600GT were released April 1, 2008. Be warned and this is the way NV works you might see limited driver updates for the 8800 series or no further support at all

I don't think that is a biggie,I like to find a place where I could see the gb/s of both.

Chai · 12th May 2008, 11:57 PM

I would choose 9800GTX over 8800GTX because it's newer, cooler, cheaper but not necessarily faster.

Midicow · 13th May 2008, 02:16 AM

Yar, 9800 gts is more supported, and will receive new driver updates.

The 9800 runs cooler, if you can find a watercooled version you can overclock it pretty well..

The 8800GTX, like the HD2900XT, is a great overclocker, and has more bits/memory... but it runs hot.. hot hot..

A gtx at anything other than stock clock almost always requires some sort of specialized non-stock cooling.

If anything I'd actually wait for the new nvidia cards to be released within a year or so, and get a cheaper 9600gt or such.

ALSO

Video Card Comparison - GPUReview.com

stock-clock comparison.

9800 has less bandwith at stock but has more texture units (and more texture fill rate)

Unfortunately that dosen't mean as much now.. lol

The raster processors and the memory bus bit size, + how much onboard memory, decide how well you can run the extra features like anti aliasing and aniso.

Soooo, 9800 for nvidia support and cooler overclock, more texture units and cooler overall running..

or

8800 for more memory and faster AA, and faster high resolution modes (2k+).

And don't focus too much on memory bandwith as well.. till we get PCI-E 3.0 maybe hah.

HD2900XTs have the biggest memory bandwith of most commercial cards, especially overclocked to the max on liquid nitrogen!

g0tanks · 13th May 2008, 02:42 AM

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Originally Posted by Chai

I would choose 9800GTX over 8800GTX because it's newer, cooler, cheaper but not necessarily faster.

Agreed, unless you game on high resolutions, then i'd go with an 8800GTX

generalRage1982hrv · 13th May 2008, 02:50 AM

i would w8 for some time

Cyberwarrior · 13th May 2008, 03:33 AM

I have 4 days to make a decision,because I am doing a whole new build, and I don't want to get stuck with this 6800gt.

generalRage1982hrv · 13th May 2008, 04:12 AM

than 9800GTX

Chai · 13th May 2008, 07:39 AM

My 8800GTS G92 is a great overclocker, 9800GTX shouldn't be too bad.

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Mac Daddy Pickin' Da Gitfiddle Join Date: 19 Nov 2007 Location: Canada Posts: 1,862 Reputation: 802 Rep Power: 10	Pretty close in price and performance I think. Both use DDR3 ram and I think the 8800GTX with the extra ram (768mb) might actually perform better. One thing to note though as I have a buddy running an 8800GTX is that NV has not released a driver for it since December 20, 2007. New drivers for the entire 9xxx series including the 9800GTX and my 9600GT were released April 1, 2008. Be warned and this is the way NV works you might see limited driver updates for the 8800 series or no further support at all __________________

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Midicow Just Started Join Date: 4 May 2008 Posts: 52 Reputation: 0 Rep Power: 0	Yar, 9800 gts is more supported, and will receive new driver updates. The 9800 runs cooler, if you can find a watercooled version you can overclock it pretty well.. The 8800GTX, like the HD2900XT, is a great overclocker, and has more bits/memory... but it runs hot.. hot hot.. A gtx at anything other than stock clock almost always requires some sort of specialized non-stock cooling. If anything I'd actually wait for the new nvidia cards to be released within a year or so, and get a cheaper 9600gt or such. ALSO Video Card Comparison - GPUReview.com stock-clock comparison. 9800 has less bandwith at stock but has more texture units (and more texture fill rate) Unfortunately that dosen't mean as much now.. lol The raster processors and the memory bus bit size, + how much onboard memory, decide how well you can run the extra features like anti aliasing and aniso. Soooo, 9800 for nvidia support and cooler overclock, more texture units and cooler overall running.. or 8800 for more memory and faster AA, and faster high resolution modes (2k+). And don't focus too much on memory bandwith as well.. till we get PCI-E 3.0 maybe hah. HD2900XTs have the biggest memory bandwith of most commercial cards, especially overclocked to the max on liquid nitrogen! Last edited by Midicow : 13th May 2008 at 02:23 AM.

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