P2P traffic clogging broadband (from tmnet)

[ALstonLoong]

Just read this from thestar

http://star-techcentral.com/tech/sto...sec=technology

CYBERJAYA: Peer-to-peer (P2P) traffic is choking up local broadband lines with 20% of users utilising 80% of the total bandwidth, according to Internet service provider (ISP) TM Net Sdn Bhd.

Dr Fadhullah Suhaimi Abdul Malek, general manager of TM Net’s corporate and strategy services, said that as the number of local broadband subscribers increases, more users are expected to use P2P applications such as Kazaa and BitTorrent to transfer files online.

“Such applications are often left on all day so they use much more bandwidth compared to users who merely use the Internet to surf or chat,” he said.

Fadhullah was speaking to reporters during the launch of the Business Software Alliance’s (BSA) “Right Click” campaign at Multimedia University (MMU).

The programme is aimed at educating Internet users to protect themselves while conducting online activities such as surfing and e-commerce.

Fadhullah said other countries with high broadband penetration also faced similar problems because “broadband users have a tendency to abuse bandwidth.”

“We are not against our customers using P2P. However, it is an unfair situation which needs to be addressed, as we cannot upgrade our infrastructure (merely) for the benefit of the minority,” he said.

To counter this problem, TM Net will introduce a number of time-based packages to cater for low-bandwidth users by the third quarter, said Mohd Nazeem Mohd Nasir, assistant manager of TM Net's technology planning and development department.

“We are coming up with a system that will inform users of their bandwidth usage via their monthly bill, and will recommend packages that are most suitable for their level of consumption,” he said.

The launch also saw the unveiling of a BSA website containing 20 online security tips for Internet users as well as several talks conducted by speakers from the Domestic Trade and Consumer Affairs Ministry, TM Net, Microsoft Malaysia and eBay.

“We want to make users aware so that they can proactively protect themselves from dubious websites and e-mail spam selling unlicensed or pirated software,” said Tarun Sawney, the BSA’s director of antipiracy in Asia.

“Many users are duped into purchasing what looks to be genuine software online, only to discover otherwise later on,” he said.

Sawney also observed that there has been a drastic jump in the number of software infringement cases on P2P networks corresponding with the growth of broadband penetration in Malaysia.

“Cases of software infringement have risen from 928 in 2003 to 8,000 last year,” he said.

Dr Ewe Hong Tat, dean of the MMU’s faculty of information technology, said the university was chosen for the launch because its students are heavy IT users.

“We hope that the students will propagate the knowledge they have learnt to their peers and to the rest of society when they join the workforce in the future,” he said.

humm ...i thought adsl is individual line that wont affect other user ?

[Papercut]

What's the big deal? It's not like you need all that bandwidth for "mere" web surfing and chatting

[Chai]

20% of the users choking up 80% of the bandwidth? Isn't that a sign of them NEEDING TO UPGRADE???

[ALstonLoong]

yeah..to me is more like they needed to upgrade their server .. instead of blaming p2p choking up local broadband lines. If i remember correctly ... adsl is not like cable which every user share the same optic cable. Adsl user have their own line and wont affect other user even u download tons of stuff.

so wat he said is not making any sense to me....

[Chai]

Originally Posted by ALstonLoong

yeah..to me is more like they needed to upgrade their server .. instead of blaming p2p choking up local broadband lines. If i remember correctly ... adsl is not like cable which every user share the same optic cable. Adsl user have their own line and wont affect other user even u download tons of stuff.

so wat he said is not making any sense to me....

Not really. If the submarine cable can only cope 1Gbps (example), you can only fit that much bandwidth thru that.

Yes everyone has their own line, but all the line still have to go thru that bottleneck.

[ZuePhok]

if you want to offer the service, u do it right.

otherwise, _|_

stop blaming ur customer. you monopoly the market and you have been offering very bad services all this while...and now you say shit like this to us? _|_

what do u mean by minority? we are ur customer u dxxb a88.

[ALstonLoong]

Originally Posted by Chai

Not really. If the submarine cable can only cope 1Gbps (example), you can only fit that much bandwidth thru that.

Yes everyone has their own line, but all the line still have to go thru that bottleneck.

yup i understand .

What im trying to say is, since everyone have their own line, doesnt that means tmnet suppose to provide that amount of bandwidth to user since we paid for it..? We didnt abuse our bandwidth... we have the right to use wat ever bandwidth we paid for isnt it( for example 1M adsl) ? tmnet server got choked thats because they need to upgrade their server they should not put the blame on user for abusing it ,isnt it?cause adsl is not like cable... we just use wat we paid for the line. Is a private line ..not shared.

just my 2 cents

[Falcone]

Originally Posted by ALstonLoong

yup i understand .

What im trying to say is, since everyone have their own line, doesnt that means tmnet suppose to provide that amount of bandwidth to user since we paid for it..? We didnt abuse our bandwidth... we have the right to use wat ever bandwidth we paid for isnt it( for example 1M adsl) ? tmnet server got choked thats because they need to upgrade their server they should not put the blame on user for abusing it ,isnt it?cause adsl is not like cable... we just use wat we paid for the line. Is a private line ..not shared.

just my 2 cents

not really. Broadband is shared service That's why it's so cheap. Lease line is dedicated.

[Dashken]

Well, Malaysian's agencies tend to put blame on the consumers or anything that they can get on rather than their inefficiency. Look at Streamyx, so many promotions, free this and free that, when have you heard of them upgrading this and that? They only want more money, but when they can't cope with the increase usage, they blame us. KNN! Stupid people!

[AAY]

Originally Posted by ALstonLoong

yup i understand .

What im trying to say is, since everyone have their own line, doesnt that means tmnet suppose to provide that amount of bandwidth to user since we paid for it..? We didnt abuse our bandwidth... we have the right to use wat ever bandwidth we paid for isnt it( for example 1M adsl) ? tmnet server got choked thats because they need to upgrade their server they should not put the blame on user for abusing it ,isnt it?cause adsl is not like cable... we just use wat we paid for the line. Is a private line ..not shared.

just my 2 cents

It doesn't work that way. Say you run an ISP with 10,000 users and you each of them buys 1.0/512 ADSL service from you. Would you then go out and get a 10Gbit line? There really is no reason to - it is highly unlikely that at any one instant all your users will be downloading large files from foreign servers. So the ISP must calculate what it believes its peak usage will be and get whatever lines it needs then.