The Canny Ong Thread

[Adrian Wong]

The Canny Ong rape and murder case has virtually gripped the attention of the nation even until today. It has also thrown a spotlight on the crime of RAPE. This has actually led to the government increasing the penalty for rape.

Unfortunately, it has caused many people to come up with all sorts of "solutions" to prevent this incident from ever happening again. Solutions like equipping shopping complexes and public car parks with tons of close circuit cameras and employing legions of security guards, etc...

You will also note the sheer PROLIFERATION of tips on how girls can defend themselves and exhortations by various parties for girls to learn self-defence or better still, how to castrate a horny male in 5 seconds... or something to that effect!

Naturally, being a sex crime, it has also led to certain parties condemning the "sick" and "depraved" nature of all "MEN". There are also many who blamed the prevalence of illegal pornographic material as the cause of such sadistic behaviour. These are just some of the many accusations being thrown around in the media and by the public.

Sad to say... All this is NOT going to solve anything at all.

Mark my words.

Within 6 months, there won't be anyone watching the thousands of close circuit cameras installed in the large shopping complexes and car parks.

Within 6 months, there won't be any legion of security guards peeling their eyes for potential rapists.

Within 6 months, it will be business as usual for the rapists and rapist-wannabes.

Why?

Cause the GOVERNMENT and the public have not quite seem to have understood anything in the Canny Ong case. That's only my opinion, of course and you are most welcomed to argue this with me!

But from what I can tell, they seem to be missing the point. The crux of the issue. So, if they are barking up the wrong tree, how the heck can they solve anything???

Why am I saying that they are barking up the wrong tree?

Well, IMHO, the Canny Ong case isn't as simple as it seems. Let's take a look at some points.

1. Canny was a black-belt Taekwondo expert so she was WELL prepared to defend herself.

2. She let the suspect drive her car!

3. Both of them drove around town for 4-5 hours!

4. They stopped twice and she never took the opportunity to run away!

5. When they were stopped by the police, she did NOT even tried to signal to them that she was in danger!

6. The suspect actually came OUT of the car to ask for directions!!! She could have easily have ran out and SCREAMED for help.. but no, she did NOT do that.

Isn't it obvious that the Canny Ong case isn't as simple as it seems???

Unfortunately, the government and the public are obviously avoiding the issue, either intentionally or unintentionally. It seems to me that everyone prefers to label this as a neat rape and murder case, instead of delving deeper.

Perhaps, they suspect they might not like what they find. Perhaps the case is a useful tool for certain parties to further their agenda.

But one thing's for sure... Everyone is doing Canny Ong an injustice by not following the trial of evidence she left and finding out WHAT EXACTLY happened to her.

I welcome any discussion on the Canny Ong case here. Doesn't matter if you agree with me or not!

[Dashken]

I think she knows the guy. But I don't think the guy that's under custory is the real culprit. Things are not that simple. So many holes in this case.

[Yupie]

wah.. really meh? she got so many chance to escape meh??

i dunno about that ler...

[Dashken]

Nobody knows... all these are just guesses. Let's start our guessing, shall we?

[se7en]

there is a certain word in the english dictionary that will answer all your questions adrian. Its under the letter C - Charmed - and not the 3 aaron spelling babes on tv. You can be fully prepared for anything, but one wrong move and before you know it, you're just a passenger staring death in the face and helpless to do anything whatsoever. It might be the first time such a thing is coming to light, but believe me, it ain't the first. You can't close a case with the reason being "kena jampi" or whatever that can't be proven with concrete evidence, hence you get a lot of unbelievable excuses being brought up.

The one and only solution is never ever be alone in a secluded place. Bring a friend, bring a dog or bring a pet goldfish. Why the fish? Fishes are supposed to block such crap or so i've heard, no idea how true that is. Either way, best way is don't be dumb enough to walk to a secluded area, especially at night alone, whether you be a guy or a girl, black belt in karate or loaded up with ak47's ala John Rambo. It is the subtle things that will undo you, not the obvious things.

All i can say now is let her rest in peace. And may whoever it is responsible for the crimes be dealth with swiftly one way or the other. While it isn't right to judge a person until he is proven guilty, it is so obvious that he was involved. The fact he was seen in the car with her, the fact that he knew details about the murder scene etc. His wife claims he is innocent and that the truth will be revealed in court. My two cents worth, she is trying to get into the limelight, aka lewinsky.

[atwl77]

Tough luck, I doubt that we'll ever hear about the real situation as many parties are sure to try and smother and douse the whole issue. We can only hope that one day true justice will be served, whether it be legal, or vigilante justice.

Anway, my thoughts about the case - true, there are many holes in the case but I can round up everything to three possibilities:

- standard rape and murder case; she was scared stiff
- more complicated murder case; she may have been drugged and unable to fend for herself
- there's some cloak and dagger stuff going on; we won't know until we dig up her past and try to find any skeletons hiding in her closet

Also the first thing that struck me when I first heard about the kidnapping was that it was very ironic - it happened at an area marked as "kawasan selamat Bangsar". Sad, just plain sad.

Again, hope that justice is served some way or another.


atwl

[goldfries]

ehhh. there's no proof that he's the rapist though. he may just be come guy who picked up the stuff.

unless they do some CSI stuff blablablablbalblablabla

my points were all mentioned in the other thread. and i agree with se7en. there are non-martial-artist ladies that gave more trouble to the abductor than anything else.

you. there is a possibility she was stunned in some way. or given drugs.

[Brian]

if any of you read the Sunday Mail, you may have noticed the perpetrator is a Malay. and we've read a lot of times about malays raping their daughters all that. i don't mean this to be racist, but intelligent discussion will help

[fuzzy]

I dunno about that. It may be caused by race itself, genes, how they were bought up, lack of sex education, 'nafsu', or simply the fact that there are more Malays compared to other races, thus more case being looked up.


Would it make any difference at all if the rapist was a englishman with a Dr. in front ?? Or a Chinese, oxford educated with a Tan Sri. ? Or a poor indian with a a/l in front ? Rape is rape, no matter who, what or how it was done, it's rape all the same.

And just for a joke, Chinese rarely get caught for rape because we pay, therefore making it a trade.

[Brian]

Originally Posted by fuzzy

I dunno about that. It may be caused by race itself, genes, how they were bought up, lack of sex education, 'nafsu', or simply the fact that there are more Malays compared to other races, thus more case being looked up.


Would it make any difference at all if the rapist was a englishman with a Dr. in front ?? Or a Chinese, oxford educated with a Tan Sri. ? Or a poor indian with a a/l in front ? Rape is rape, no matter who, what or how it was done, it's rape all the same.

And just for a joke, Chinese rarely get caught for rape because we pay, therefore making it a trade.

i dunnoler, but if you read the court proceedings in the newpaper, 70-80% of them are malays caught in rape cases of someone. this was pointed out by a malay teacher to us. and i don't mean that what race rapes who is te point. my point is an observation that malays always appear wan.