Studying Assembly Language.

The_YongGrand · 2nd Mar 2007, 11:24 AM

Hey there, anyone studying assembly language here? I got so curious about it so I borrowed some books about it in my college.

But of course, I started out with 8086 systems - the MOST basic set of instructions, mnemoics and registers. I don't want to study the Motorola or the 80286/386/486 systems first - they are making my head spin.

However, after learning a bit by bit, the books never tell how to create a simple Hello World program - and they have tons of way apparently to do all these.

empire23 · 2nd Mar 2007, 02:39 PM

ASM. The cornerstone of all programming, unless you like machine code that is. If you ask me, ASM has to be one of the easiest languages to program for, it requires above all, common sense, because it's not only how the end that matters, but what instructions are given to that end. Some processors execute ADD faster than MUL and some differently, making ASM one the most optimized code out there.

I still have a good tutorial lying around called sk00lmeASM, but can't seem to find it. Damn i always did forget the difference between the $ # location and data sets

, Much to my 68HC11's Chagrin

hyper_raider · 2nd Mar 2007, 04:24 PM

i absolutely hate it..but thats just me, leave the low level stuff to the Computer engineers and the high level stuff to the CS majors..

Taking 3 lines to do a simple increment is a little too much for me

The_YongGrand · 2nd Mar 2007, 05:56 PM

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Originally Posted by empire23

ASM. The cornerstone of all programming, unless you like machine code that is. If you ask me, ASM has to be one of the easiest languages to program for, it requires above all, common sense, because it's not only how the end that matters, but what instructions are given to that end. Some processors execute ADD faster than MUL and some differently, making ASM one the most optimized code out there.

I still have a good tutorial lying around called sk00lmeASM, but can't seem to find it. Damn i always did forget the difference between the $ # location and data sets

, Much to my 68HC11's Chagrin

I see - just curious about these machine language because I might use it for some of my electronic hobbies too - like those PIC programming (if I happen to play with them) and also, connecting a new piece of electronic stuff to the computer might need this language right? I can't just 'talk' to a computer using C++ when the computer don't know any head and tails about the new piece of equipment connected. Maybe will be another extension of my programming repetorie.

ZuePhok · 2nd Mar 2007, 06:49 PM

assembly is a very good thing to learn. it helps u to understand how the processor actually works.
if u have the passion, keep it up!

The_YongGrand · 3rd Mar 2007, 10:56 AM

Yeah it is a good thing to learn. Hmm... at the start of all these assembly language books they never told us to write any Hello World program yet - it's in the back of the books which talks about DOS INT21h system. That's already a way to send a text message up onto the screen. Now I have to learn both ways.

Trinity · 3rd Mar 2007, 11:17 AM

I have an old Z-80 cpu around here somewhere... You wan?

Adrian Wong · 3rd Mar 2007, 04:24 PM

Hmm.. I would love to be able to learn assembly, but I can't even start on higher-end languages...

empire23 · 3rd Mar 2007, 10:55 PM

LOL found it. My absolutely most favourite tutorial when it comes to ASM tutelage. Sk00l me ASM. Total Awesomeness in a TXT file.

http://www.groovyweb.uklinux.net/ind...age%20how%20to

neverthar · 4th Mar 2007, 09:55 PM

The last time I studied was for the 8051 microcontroller. Easy at the early stages but when it comes to electromechanical controlling, damned tricky to say the least. Personally better off sticking to C and OOP

2nd Mar 2007, 11:24 AM	#1 (permalink)
The_YongGrand Super Active Join Date: 12 Feb 2005 Location: Somewhere in 甲洞... Posts: 2,280 Reputation: 852 Rep Power: 14	Studying Assembly Language. Hey there, anyone studying assembly language here? I got so curious about it so I borrowed some books about it in my college. But of course, I started out with 8086 systems - the MOST basic set of instructions, mnemoics and registers. I don't want to study the Motorola or the 80286/386/486 systems first - they are making my head spin. However, after learning a bit by bit, the books never tell how to create a simple Hello World program - and they have tons of way apparently to do all these.

2nd Mar 2007, 02:39 PM	#2 (permalink)
empire23 BRB. Attacking Russia Join Date: 4 Feb 2006 Location: Ze Fatherland Posts: 279 Reputation: 390 Rep Power: 6	ASM. The cornerstone of all programming, unless you like machine code that is. If you ask me, ASM has to be one of the easiest languages to program for, it requires above all, common sense, because it's not only how the end that matters, but what instructions are given to that end. Some processors execute ADD faster than MUL and some differently, making ASM one the most optimized code out there. I still have a good tutorial lying around called sk00lmeASM, but can't seem to find it. Damn i always did forget the difference between the $ # location and data sets , Much to my 68HC11's Chagrin __________________ I'm in Ur Forums, Spamming Ur Boards.

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hyper_raider shutdown -h now Join Date: 15 Aug 2003 Location: in front of my pc Posts: 6,001 Reputation: 1078 Rep Power: 22	i absolutely hate it..but thats just me, leave the low level stuff to the Computer engineers and the high level stuff to the CS majors.. Taking 3 lines to do a simple increment is a little too much for me __________________ "God does not play dice with the universe." - Albert Einstein (1879-1955) http://edward-lim.blogspot.com

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empire23 BRB. Attacking Russia Join Date: 4 Feb 2006 Location: Ze Fatherland Posts: 279 Reputation: 390 Rep Power: 6	LOL found it. My absolutely most favourite tutorial when it comes to ASM tutelage. Sk00l me ASM. Total Awesomeness in a TXT file. http://www.groovyweb.uklinux.net/ind...age%20how%20to __________________ I'm in Ur Forums, Spamming Ur Boards.

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neverthar I'm a regular Join Date: 17 Oct 2006 Posts: 280 Reputation: 234 Rep Power: 5	The last time I studied was for the 8051 microcontroller. Easy at the early stages but when it comes to electromechanical controlling, damned tricky to say the least. Personally better off sticking to C and OOP __________________ Only available by PM. Will help if possible Wanted: 2nd hand good condition IS lense for Canon 400D