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Old 12th May 2008, 01:28 PM   #1 (permalink)
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Got this in an email. Dr. Adrian Wong, how true is this?

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Keep a syringe or needle in your home to do this...
It's amazing and an unconventional way of recovering from stroke, read it through it can help somebody one day.

This is amazing. Please keep this very handy..
Excellent tips. Do take a minute to read this. You'll never know. One's life may depend on you.

My father was paralyzed and later died from the result of a stroke. I wish I knew about this first aid before.

When stroke strikes, the capillaries in the brain will gradually
burst."(Irene Liu)

When a stroke occurs, stay calm. No matter where the victim is, do not move him/her. Because, if moved, the capillaries will burst. Help the victim to sit up where he is to prevent him from falling over again, and then the bloodletting can begin. If you have in your home an injection syringe that would be the best, otherwise, a sewing needle or a straight pin will do.

1. Place the needle/pin over fire to sterilize it, and then use it to
prick the tip of all 10 fingers.

2. There are no specific acupuncture points, just prick about a mm from the fingernail.

3. Prick till blood comes out.

4. If blood does not start to drip, then squeeze with your fingers.

5. When all 10 digits is bleeding, wait a few minutes then the victim will regain consciousness.

6. If the victim's mouth is crooked, then pull on his ears until they are red.

7. Then prick each ear lobe twice until two drops of blood comes from each ear lobe. After a few minutes the victim should regain consciousness.

Wait till the victim regain his normal state without any abnormal
symptoms then take him to the hospital, otherwise, if he was taken in the ambulance in a hurry to the hospital, the bumpy trip will cause all the capillaries in his brain to burst. If he could
save his life, barely managing to walk, then it is by the grace of his ancestors.

" I learned about letting blood to save life from Chinese traditional doctor Ha Bu-Ting who lives in Sun-Juke. Furthermore, I had practical experience with it. Therefore I can say this method is 100% effective.In 1979, I was teaching in Fung-Gaap College in Tai-Chung. One afternoon I was teaching class when another teacher came running to my class room and said in
panting, "Ms. Liu, come quick, our supervisor has had a stroke!"

I immediately went to the 3rd floor. When I saw our supervisor, Mr.Chen Fu-Tien, his color was off, his speech was slurred, his mouth was crooked-all the symptoms of a stroke.

I immediately asked one of the practicum students to go to the pharmacy outside the school to buy a syringe, which I used to prick Mr. Chen's 10 fingers tips. When all 10 fingers were bleeding (each with a pea-sized drop of blood), after a few minutes, Mr. Chen's face regained its color and his eyes' spirit returned, too. But his mouth was still crooked. So I pulled on his ears to fill them with blood. When his ears became red, I pricked his right earlobe twice to let out 2 drops of blood. When both earlobes had two drops of blood each, a miracle happened. Within 3-5 minutes the shape of his mouth returned to normal and his speech became clear. We let him rest for a while and have a cup of hot tea, then we helped him go down the stairs, drove him to Wei-Wah Hospital .

He rested one night and was released the next day to return to school to teach.

Everything worked normally. There were no ill after-effects. On the otherhand, the usual stroke victim usually suffers irreparable bursting of the brain capillaries on the way to the hospital. As a result, these victims never recover.- " (Irene Liu)

Therefore stroke is the second cause of death. The lucky ones will stay alive but can remain paralyzed for life.

It is such a horrible thing to happen in one's life.

If we can all remember this bloodletting method and start the life-saving process immediately, in a short time, the victim will be revived and regain 100% normality.

If possible, Please forward this after reading. You never know if it may help save a life from stroke.
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is this true?
if it is, it certainly would be a help for my dad
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Interesting indeed
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Since it's from email, 99.9% of the time they are fake.

I did some googling and found this:

First Aid for Stroke - HOAX - Vox

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Now, don't you think that sounds really fishy? Who in the right mind would waste precious time jabbing at the poor victim's fingers and ears when he is near death? That's just plain evil. And here's the truth:

There are two types of acute stroke: ischemic and hemorrhagic. However, there are also two kinds of strokes: acute and transient ischemic attack (TIA). The former is the sort that takes lives or leaves those it strikes with permanent and all too often heartbreakingly serious disabilities. With the latter, the focal symptoms resolve within 24 hours, leaving no permament neurological deficit. With that in mind, the "miraculous recovery" described in the e-mail above would have been due to the patient having weathered a TIA episode, not to having had his blood drained from his fingers and ear lobes.Because the underlying patholophysiology is the same between acute stroke and TIA, it's important to seek immediate medical attention for all stroke victims. TIA is also often a warning sign heralding increased risk of stroke. (In high risk demographics, the risk of stroke goes up ten-fold after a TIA.)

As for not moving a stroke victim because so doing might cause "irrepairable bursting of the brain capillaries," the initial insult (stroke) has already occurred, so transport is unlikely to cause further harm.

With regard to pricking fingers to get them bleeding as a possible counter to strokes, according to Dr. Rupinder S. Sahsi of Guelph, Ontario, a medical doctor of our acquaintance, "I see no physiological reason why minute amounts of peripheral blood loss would have any effect on cerebral blood flow." In other words, pricking a stroke victim's fingers to get each of them to drip blood isn't going to do anything to aid that person.

However, taking the time to stab the victim's fingers before bothering to transport him to a hospital, with even that done at a low speed, will cause harm, because when it comes to obtaining proper treatment for stroke victims, time lost is brain lost. Our physician friend counsels: "Do not wait for the symptoms to resolve before taking a casual drive to the hospital in your vehicle, as suggested by this e-mail."

Getting a stroke victim to an emergency room in time for tPA therapy to be begun is the most important thing you can do to help prevent further brain damage. Do not waste any of that brief window of opportunity by driving at a snail's pace or by stopping to stab the person's fingers and ear lobes. (Source)


The point I want to drive home is that almost all forwarded 'articles on first aid tips, amazing breakthroughs in health-related stuff, and whatever that urges you to forward it to as many people as you can if you care about them, are more often than not, plain hoaxes. Think about it: If the content you see is so extraordinary, you'd probably have heard it in the news or from other reliable sources.

If you like forwarding emails just for the sake of 'letting your friends know you're thinking of them', you're free to do so, but don't actually BELIEVE everything you read. Misinformation can lead to one heck of a lot of problems.
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yeah it was too good to be true.

thanks for clearing that up max, and it was a good reading.
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Sorry for the late reply, but yeah, that e-mail is sheer nonsense. Once you get a stroke, the damage has already been done.

Quick medical intervention can prevent it from worsening and even reduce the damage, but certainly not by pricking the tips of the patient's fingers or ear lobes.
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Sorry for the late reply, but yeah, that e-mail is sheer nonsense. Once you get a stroke, the damage has already been done.

Quick medical intervention can prevent it from worsening and even reduce the damage, but certainly not by pricking the tips of the patient's fingers or ear lobes.
Is using a whole XXL-sized syringe to jab at the heart (or onto the center of the chest of the victim) going to stop the cardiac arrest? Or is it just in the movies?
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Is using a whole XXL-sized syringe to jab at the heart (or onto the center of the chest of the victim) going to stop the cardiac arrest? Or is it just in the movies?
Shooting adrenaline directly into the heart can restart it so I have heard ... never tried it though
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Is using a whole XXL-sized syringe to jab at the heart (or onto the center of the chest of the victim) going to stop the cardiac arrest? Or is it just in the movies?
Huh?? Not in a stroke case la...

You need to get them to a hospital fast cause you need to find out whether it's haemorrhagic or ischaemic because the treatment is different and can worsen the situation (even kill the patient) if wrongly treated.
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