[Auto Talk] Honda Accord Or Toyota Camry?

[Adrian Wong]

Originally Posted by Chai

Accord and Camry la. Long waiting list, what do you think?

Oh yeah la.. That's why they have such solid resale value. Cause they are so popular!

Can't have one without the other!

[ToyotaFreak]

Originally Posted by Chai

Kia Magentis-> The last Korean I will buy.

I never drove the new 2nd gen (current) model, but the one I sat inside at the motorshow isn't bad to be honest (Looks good and the quality is there.), and from the reviews that I've read, handling is pretty good. Plus it's reasonably priced (Considering the size.) in Malaysia, starting from RM110,000 (Plus 5 years/ 125,000KM warranty & 2 years/ 50,000 KM free servicing.)

Originally Posted by Adrian Wong

Hey TF!!

Hmm.. The V6 is only available as the 3.5L engine which costs a BOMB! The price premium can pay for 20 years of FREE fuel!

Yes, was thinking about the new NF Sonata. Looks damn good. Great set of features for a good price. Unfortunately, the resale value for Hyundai and all Korean makes are damn bad. No idea why.

The Kia Magentis is the same thing as the Hyundai NF Sonata. Same car, just a different body IIANM.

LOL!! The Alphard and those jumbo minivans are monstrous la.

What about the Honda Civic? Or the yet-to-be-released-here Nissan Teana?

The Accord is really nice though, it's spacious inside and it's the first Thai-built car with VCM (Basically, the car will run on 3 - 4 cylinders under normal driving conditions to save fuel, and use all 6 cylinders when needed, like overtaking or going uphill.), pretty nifty tech. But the Accord V6 is only worth it if you do a lot of long distance drives (And can bear with the road tax for a 3.5l car.).

The 2nd gen Kia Optima is no longer based on the same platform as the Sonata, instead, a unique global platform shared with the Kia Rondo is used.

The Nissan Teana 2.3 V6 was released in Malaysia last year, as a low volume import. Made in Japan. Price? RM230,000.

MALAYSIAN MOTOR TRADER NEWS - FIRST LOOKS - Nissan Teana 2.3

What about a used JDM V35 Skyline Sedan (2001 - 2006)?

Starts from RM130,000 for a 2002 250GT (2.5 V6).

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[peaz]

Eh how come i missed this thread

Personally, If I'm ever going to spend like RM180K for the stupid accord 2.4 or camry 2.4 I'd just save up and spend a little more and get the VW passat. a much MUCH better car.

Continental cars are seriously just so much better.

I think our problem here in Malaysia is the stupid tax structure that favours cars from certain regions. That's why any comparison is never going to be apple to apple.

[Mac Daddy]

Originally Posted by peaz

Eh how come i missed this thread

Personally, If I'm ever going to spend like RM180K for the stupid accord 2.4 or camry 2.4 I'd just save up and spend a little more and get the VW passat. a much MUCH better car.

Continental cars are seriously just so much better.

I think our problem here in Malaysia is the stupid tax structure that favours cars from certain regions. That's why any comparison is never going to be apple to apple.

They are a nice car you thought of TDI ?

[peaz]

Diesel cars in malaysia is a love and hate situation. Diesels are cheaper than petrol. BUT the taxes on diesel cars are much higher.

[Adrian Wong]

[quote=ToyotaFreak;330755]I never drove the new 2nd gen (current) model, but the one I sat inside at the motorshow isn't bad to be honest (Looks good and the quality is there.), and from the reviews that I've read, handling is pretty good. Plus it's reasonably priced (Considering the size.) in Malaysia, starting from RM110,000 (Plus 5 years/ 125,000KM warranty & 2 years/ 50,000 KM free servicing.)
Haven't tried it either... but again, resale value is very bad.

Originally Posted by ToyotaFreak

The Accord is really nice though, it's spacious inside and it's the first Thai-built car with VCM (Basically, the car will run on 3 - 4 cylinders under normal driving conditions to save fuel, and use all 6 cylinders when needed, like overtaking or going uphill.), pretty nifty tech. But the Accord V6 is only worth it if you do a lot of long distance drives (And can bear with the road tax for a 3.5l car.).

The road tax for the 3.5L engine is ridiculous, man... And the additional cost for the engine is just too prohibitive.

Originally Posted by ToyotaFreak

The 2nd gen Kia Optima is no longer based on the same platform as the Sonata, instead, a unique global platform shared with the Kia Rondo is used.

Oh, I didn't know that. Too bad Korean cars still have bad resale value.

Originally Posted by ToyotaFreak

The Nissan Teana 2.3 V6 was released in Malaysia last year, as a low volume import. Made in Japan. Price? RM230,000.

Yeah, only fully-assembled imported. Really expensive.

[Adrian Wong]

Originally Posted by peaz

Eh how come i missed this thread

Personally, If I'm ever going to spend like RM180K for the stupid accord 2.4 or camry 2.4 I'd just save up and spend a little more and get the VW passat. a much MUCH better car.

Continental cars are seriously just so much better.

I think our problem here in Malaysia is the stupid tax structure that favours cars from certain regions. That's why any comparison is never going to be apple to apple.

Hmm.. Cannot compare CKD cars assembled in Thailand or Malaysia with cars imported directly from Europe la... If want to compare, then should compare against Japanese-imported models. Then the build quality would be comparably good, I think.

But I don't know... Is the build quality of locally-assembled cars or even Thai-assembled cars that bad? How do you define poor or good build quality? I've examined both the Camry and the Accord and they all seem to have really good build quality. None of the squeaking and rough workmanship common in Proton cars.

[Adrian Wong]

Originally Posted by peaz

Diesel cars in malaysia is a love and hate situation. Diesels are cheaper than petrol. BUT the taxes on diesel cars are much higher.

I think they have a 50% discount for green diesel cars. But I think the lack of enthusiasm for diesel cars right now is probably due to the lack of sedan models... Probably because our diesel fuel isn't clean enough for the newer engines?

[Chai]

Originally Posted by Adrian Wong

Hmm.. Cannot compare CKD cars assembled in Thailand or Malaysia with cars imported directly from Europe la... If want to compare, then should compare against Japanese-imported models. Then the build quality would be comparably good, I think.

But I don't know... Is the build quality of locally-assembled cars or even Thai-assembled cars that bad? How do you define poor or good build quality? I've examined both the Camry and the Accord and they all seem to have really good build quality. None of the squeaking and rough workmanship common in Proton cars.

Nope, even the 'low end' 318 CKD is much better than imported Japanese.

[Mac Daddy]

Originally Posted by peaz

Diesel cars in malaysia is a love and hate situation. Diesels are cheaper than petrol. BUT the taxes on diesel cars are much higher.

Ahh I see I wasn't aware of that.