The Perpetual F1 Thread!

[lung]

Originally Posted by Adrian Wong

Goes to show that NOTHING is impossible, if you want it hard enough.

Only when you're driving a Ferrari...

I still can't believe it... Wut are the other drivers doing? Maybe they hit some problems (one of the commentators said that Montoya may be facing problems because his lap times slowed significantly) or maybe they just give up after seeing the Ferraris back in action...

Or maybe it's just a set-up... Purposely push those two Ferraris to the back of the grid... Only to let them win in the end (and where else, but Monza).

[Chai]

Yes, Montoya had gearbox problem after the second pitstop.

"If only you are driving a Ferrari?" Er...please...Considering their qualifying performance, early part of the race performance, they don't look like they are going to win easily, do they, not especially after they totally screwed up their first part of the race? Not even me as a Ferrari fan would expect performances like that. Even Button thought he had his first win under his belt...

To tell you the truth, it's not really the car that's making the difference. It's the tyres.

[Adrian Wong]

Originally Posted by lung

Only when you're driving a Ferrari...

I still can't believe it... Wut are the other drivers doing? Maybe they hit some problems (one of the commentators said that Montoya may be facing problems because his lap times slowed significantly) or maybe they just give up after seeing the Ferraris back in action...

Or maybe it's just a set-up... Purposely push those two Ferraris to the back of the grid... Only to let them win in the end (and where else, but Monza).

Actually, I don't quite think the Ferrari is all that matters.

I'm not a rabid MS fan but I found myself rooting for him and in quite a shock when I saw him fighting his way from the back of the pack to the front!

He cut Button off with 7 laps to spare and he could have easily taken the top spot from his team mate within 5 laps of the finish line but he evidently choose not to. He was practically cruising behind Barrichello, about one second back.

So, your theory that you can do it in a Ferrari, I think, does not hold true.

Look at Barrichello! He had a massive 8 seconds lead initially but soon gave it up. He even let Alonso cut him!

That is a Ferrari too but just not a MS-driven Ferrari.

I believe if you give MS a Minardi, he may not be able to win the race but he will sure give even the front runners a REAL scare!

[Adrian Wong]

Originally Posted by Chai

Even Button thought he had his first win under his belt...

LOL! I will agree with that. It was very pitiful to see Button struggling to keep MS off his back!

And when he was on the podium, I can see that he wasn't very happy. I think he felt he should actually be placed two steps to the right!

Originally Posted by Chai

To tell you the truth, it's not really the car that's making the difference. It's the tyres.

I would agree on that for Barrichello. Look at him go during the start with his intermediate tyres.

But look at him get cut off by Alonso just as quickly when the track dried up!

[lung]

Originally Posted by Adrian Wong

I believe if you give MS a Minardi, he may not be able to win the race but he will sure give even the front runners a REAL scare!

LOL. I would most definitely love to see Schumacher in a Minardi... Will certainly see if he's really as good as so many people claims. IMHO, Schumacher in a Minardi will still never be able to challenge the front-runners... If you think otherwise, then I seriously think Schumacher's ability is way overrated.

Originally Posted by Chai

To tell you the truth, it's not really the car that's making the difference. It's the tyres.

Well the tyres may make a difference, but certainly not that much. Everyone's running on dry tyres half way thru the race, and Ferrari's not the only team with Bridgestone... Sauber's on Bridgestone, too, and they never really become front runners this season.

Schumacher is good, but I don't think he can perform the feat at Monza last weekend IF he is NOT driving a Ferrari... So, there, my point stands.

[Adrian Wong]

Originally Posted by lung

IMHO, Schumacher in a Minardi will still never be able to challenge the front-runners... If you think otherwise, then I seriously think Schumacher's ability is way overrated.

I didn't say he will challenge the front runners. But I'm pretty sure he will give them a good scare.

I personally didn't think he could have pulled off what he did in Monza. But he did it anyway. So while a Minardi would have crippled him, I would rather bet on him, than against him!

Again, I'm not saying he can win or challenge the front runners for podium in a Minardi but he would definitely have a strong and menacing presence in the race.

Originally Posted by lung

Schumacher is good, but I don't think he can perform the feat at Monza last weekend IF he is NOT driving a Ferrari... So, there, my point stands.

Err.. Barrichello was in a Ferrari also but if he switched places with MS, I seriously do not think he would have climbed his way up to the top.

[Chai]

Yes, you will be surprised how much tyre is contributing Ferrari's victory and loses. Just look at Spa. Tyres cost them dearly in the race. MS could have a chance of winning the race if it wasn't for the extremely low tyre pressure that needed to heat up for a few laps.

Ferrari is about 1-2 seconds faster than the rest during the race, but they are not 1-2 seconds faster during qualifying. Why? Tyres again...

Look at how Ferrari struggled during the early part of the race! That's why MS got a spin there in the first place. Even I as a Ferrari fan knows that it's not completely Ferrari being quick. Kudos to Bridgestone. Don't forget that Ferrari is the only top team using Bridgestone tyres, and they probably have a few special compounds just for Ferrari alone.

[lung]

Originally Posted by Adrian Wong

Err.. Barrichello was in a Ferrari also but if he switched places with MS, I seriously do not think he would have climbed his way up to the top.

It's not the question of who... It's the car. It's obvious Schumacher is a great driver, but he needs a car like Ferrari to become super-great like the stunt he pulled last weekend. Put him in another car, do you think he can still do it? So there, my point still stands. Driving a Ferrari is something having an 'ability-amplifier'.

Originally Posted by Chai

Don't forget that Ferrari is the only top team using Bridgestone tyres, and they probably have a few special compounds just for Ferrari alone.

Probably... I heard Schumacher even have his own 'personal' technical team... That's why you can see although he and his teammate drive the same cars, their performance is not the same... The cars' configurations are probably miles apart.

[Chai]

I don't know what do you mean by personal technical members, but just to let you know, every driver has their own group of mechanics working on their cars.

And please don't forget, F1 is a team sport. No one would want to intentionally crippled one of their cars. After all, there's something called constructor's championship!

As for putting MS into a Minardi, who knows! No, he will never win a race with that car, but I'm pretty sure he can do something out of one's expectation!

[Falcone]

Hmmmn how come so big news happened in F1 and no one post anythig? Ford is pulling out!!!