Money is not everything students told!

[K B Ng]

Money is not everything.. there's gold, and then there's jewellery.. Seriously, though, after you have enough money to survive, there's not a lot you can actually buy to make you any happier than you are now. The path to happiness, I think, is probably not through money. The laptop I'm writing this on cost RM2000 (that's about USD550) and it does what I want it to do. With a whole lot more money I could get one of those high-end laptops, which you can play high-end games and stuff. But then I'd have to get games, and to be honest, I'm probably the world's worst gamer. Okay maybe with enough money I can hire the best teachers. Or can I ? would the best teachers be able to teach me how to game ? it's part nature and part training, I think.. you probably can't buy a "good gaming skill" mod-chip that you can implant in your brain that makes you instantly a good gamer. So what now ? hire a good gamer to play my games for me ?

[Chai]

Well, that's a bit flawed, because the main purpose for playing games is to have fun, not necessary to be good at it, unless you are playing it at the professional level.

But of course, I know what you mean. Then again, the more you earn, the more you will spend. That's human.

[Dashken]

Well, I still think the more money I have, the happier I will be.

Look at me now, everyday thinking about money or the lack of. And I'm so unhappy.. see.. -->

[K B Ng]

Originally Posted by Chai

Well, that's a bit flawed, because the main purpose for playing games is to have fun, not necessary to be good at it, unless you are playing it at the professional level.

True.. I suppose if you have to spend money to have fun. Actually I know someone who idea of fun is spending money. But then again, he's not the one making the money (his dad gives him a generious allowance )

Originally Posted by Chai

But of course, I know what you mean. Then again, the more you earn, the more you will spend. That's human.

Used to be like that.. but someone was kind enough to point me in my current direction. Earlier in my life I was always short of money because I was spending it all as soon as I made it. What's worse was that I was spending it to be happy, but the more I spent, the more miserable I got. And the more miserable I got, the more I spent. It was weird. Eventually someone straightened me out and helped me find what really made me happy. After all, no one lives forever (yet, now there's an interesting thought.) All the money in the world can't cure cancer. All the money in the world can't bring back the dead. All the money in the world can't make anyone fall in love with you. If someone really, really wants to give you grief, all the money in the world won't stop him. So I think maybe money's not all that important. I don't know, I have issues with spending money maybe. It's just that, if you can get by with a cheap laptop that works, why would you want a more expensive one ? I asked someone this question once, and his answer was "because you can."

[Olle P]

Originally Posted by Arnold Schwartzenegger

Money doesn't make you happy.
Look at me. I'm not happier now that I have $ 100,000,000 than I was when I had only $ 10,000,000!

Seriously though: Why do Malaysians go to Britain instead of studying at home in the first place?
With enough "home grown" physicians there wouldn't be much of a problem, would it?

Cheers
Olle

[fyire]

Originally Posted by Olle P

Seriously though: Why do Malaysians go to Britain instead of studying at home in the first place?
With enough "home grown" physicians there wouldn't be much of a problem, would it?

Cheers
Olle

Believe it or not, its actually easier for a non Malay Malaysian to get into medicine outside the country than in the country

[K B Ng]

Originally Posted by Olle P

Seriously though: Why do Malaysians go to Britain instead of studying at home in the first place?
With enough "home grown" physicians there wouldn't be much of a problem, would it?

Cheers
Olle

Well, many reasons I guess. One of them is prestige. A British degree somehow has a level of prestige above that of pretty much any other country. That's principally because standards were really high there once upon a time. I'm not sure if they still are, though.

Also, they had a heck of a head start.. they've been independent for .. well they've never been colonized. And they've lived through events like the Black Death, which, although tragic, must have been a great learning opportunity for the medical industry. So that's why people go there, because they'd had like thousands of years of experience collectively. The "home grown" medical industry is just starting over here, which is pretty good I think because we've only been independent for 49 years (some people look at me funny when I say my father is older than the country )

The thing is, the UK market and country is becoming somewhat saturated, everyone wanted to go there and work there and study there, so demand's probably pushed up prices a little too much. The ideal solution is probably for them to move here. The cost of living is lower here, so they can reach a segment of the world population that can't afford the cost of education in the UK.

[K B Ng]

Originally Posted by fyire

Believe it or not, its actually easier for a non Malay Malaysian to get into medicine outside the country than in the country

Um.. I'm not sure if that's entirely accurate. If you're referring to the so-called "bumiputra policies" it should maybe be noted that it does not specifically exclude any one particular race, religion or gender. I've always been a believer in meritocracy, so I've never agreed with any "affirmative action" or "positive discrimination" policies.

[fyire]

Originally Posted by K B Ng

Um.. I'm not sure if that's entirely accurate. If you're referring to the so-called "bumiputra policies" it should maybe be noted that it does not specifically exclude or include any one particular race, religion or gender. I've always been a believer in meritocracy, so I've never agreed with any "affirmative action" or "positive discrimination" policies.

It dont specifically exclude any one particular race, yes. Not specifically include any one particular race, questionable.

Ok, its not set down that it only includes on particular race, but well, numbers shows otherwise. Furthermore, check this out:
http://blog.limkitsiang.com/?p=564

Well, basically that kinda explains why so many Malaysians still go overseas for their studies, and not just for medicine either.

[K B Ng]

Originally Posted by fyire

It dont specifically exclude any one particular race, yes. Not specifically include any one particular race, questionable.

Noted with apologies. Post edited.

Originally Posted by fyire

Ok, its not set down that it only includes on particular race, but well, numbers shows otherwise. Furthermore, check this out:
http://blog.limkitsiang.com/?p=564

I wouldn't exactly call that an unbiased source. I can't say much about it because I'm not exactly sure where he's getting his statistics from. Besides the fact that it's practically his job to be biased against the government, I have issues with the way he chooses to present and interpret them. I'd rather he just posted the report and his analysis, and then maybe let us draw our own conclusions (if any) from it. I just distrust analysis from any party that doesn't quote sources or detail methodology. For instance if you look at any of our reviews you can see clearly how the information was collected, the actual raw data, and then the analysis, interpretation and conclusion. I think if anyone is trying to make a point (that is, state a fact) and not merely expressing an opinion, that's the only way to go.

Originally Posted by fyire

Well, basically that kinda explains why so many Malaysians still go overseas for their studies, and not just for medicine either.

True because of the prior experience thing that I mentioned in the other post. That's changing though I think, for the reasons I mentioned in the earlier post.