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Old 24th Apr 2008, 07:12 PM   #31 (permalink)
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That's the platter/cell transfer rate. They need to use something like IOMeter to check the actual transfer rates of both small files and large files. Then we will know the SSD's actual performance.

In any case, performance is only one issue. Cost and capacity are bigger issues for the SSDs. They have trouble lowering the cost.. and increasing the capacity.

Look at that SSD drive you post. It may be really fast but it only has 32GB of storage. That's just over 10% of what the new WD VelociRaptor can do.

IMHO, for SSDs to really beat HDDs, they don't really have to be faster in transfer rate performance. They must first tackle the capacity issue... and the cost issue.
It will take over the notebook HDD market first before coming to desktop, and it has already started a few years back. eeePC is the best sign of smaller capacity SSD.
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Old 24th Apr 2008, 11:27 PM   #32 (permalink)
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Sounds pretty complicated.

But I do agree that SSD would needs to have higher capacity & lower cost/GB if they want to replace traditional hdd.
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Old 25th Apr 2008, 01:20 AM   #33 (permalink)
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It will take over the notebook HDD market first before coming to desktop, and it has already started a few years back. eeePC is the best sign of smaller capacity SSD.
Yup, definitely notebooks first because the robustness of SSDs make them superb replacements for HDDs.

However, SSDs have very limited capacity so while it's great for some niche applications like the eeePC, mainstream notebooks are unlikely to use them for sometime to come. Even the most basic notebook these days come with at least 40GB of storage with higher-end models coming with 250GB to 320GB of storage.

In the immediate future, hybrid HDD would replace HDDs in the notebook. Even then, it will a few years to become mainstream. Then later... who knows?
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Old 25th Apr 2008, 08:03 AM   #34 (permalink)
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Yup, definitely notebooks first because the robustness of SSDs make them superb replacements for HDDs.

However, SSDs have very limited capacity so while it's great for some niche applications like the eeePC, mainstream notebooks are unlikely to use them for sometime to come. Even the most basic notebook these days come with at least 40GB of storage with higher-end models coming with 250GB to 320GB of storage.

In the immediate future, hybrid HDD would replace HDDs in the notebook. Even then, it will a few years to become mainstream. Then later... who knows?
Thumbdrives are already reaching 32GB, it's sooner than you think. I think 1 year is more than enough for SSD to replace low end notebook HDDs.
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Old 30th Apr 2008, 02:53 AM   #35 (permalink)
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Thumbdrives are already reaching 32GB, it's sooner than you think. I think 1 year is more than enough for SSD to replace low end notebook HDDs.
Well, we shall see. Even today, hybrid HDDs have not replaced any segment of the mobile hard drive market. Price and capacity of SSDs in the near future will determine if it's possible to replace HDDs in notebooks.
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Newegg.com - Western Digital VelociRaptor WD1500HLFS 150GB 10000 RPM 16MB Cache SATA 3.0Gb/s Hard Drive (bare drive) - Internal Hard Drives

WD VelociRaptor 150 GB SATA Hard Drives ( WD1500HLFS )

Looks like the 150GB Velociraptor is for sale. If only they sell it here... I don't need the capacity, and 300GB is too expensive...
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Try contacting the distributor directly, achieva or gcc. The reason they don't sell it here because lack of demand.
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Since you are here, I have another question. Does removing the Icepak void the warranty?

Anyway, I think I will be getting the 300GB since it should perform better especially when I short stoke it at 50GB when compared to 150GB because 300GB should maintain better transfer speed and access time at the outer track of 2 platters, instead of 1 (150GB).

I hope you guys understand what I'm trying to say. lol
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Since you are here, I have another question. Does removing the Icepak void the warranty?

Anyway, I think I will be getting the 300GB since it should perform better especially when I short stoke it at 50GB when compared to 150GB because 300GB should maintain better transfer speed and access time at the outer track of 2 platters, instead of 1 (150GB).

I hope you guys understand what I'm trying to say. lol
You mean the heatsink? AFAIK, no.

Yeah, I get what you mean.
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