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Old 14th Jun 2008, 06:25 AM   #11 (permalink)
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Well it's perfectly fine when you use it on stock systems, nothing wrong with that (the price is wrong though), it will outperform any cooling solutions available with a significant lead. Yup, MUCH better than any cooling solutions, in fact, it is capable of going sub ambient temperatures on stock systems!

They are good for moderate overclocks too, but not when you try to push the chip to it's limit, ie 65nm C2D/C2Q @ 3.8-4GHz range with ~1.5-1.6V. This is where their TEC based cooling solutions fail, to the point where it performs even worse than a high end heatsink such as TRUE. Remember, you are spending at least 4-5 times more than a TRUE.

I'm against recommending anyone to buy these TEC coolers unless they really have too much money to play around with. Try posting in XtremeSystems and you will see what I mean Better get some fire extiguishers before you attempt that

The single 120mm rad on SkullTrail watercooler is an exception though. It is 100% confirmed to underperform, stock or overclocked doesn't matter
Where exactly are you getting this information and feedback from ?
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Old 14th Jun 2008, 06:36 AM   #12 (permalink)
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T.E.C. Cooling - XtremeSystems Forums

There are many TEC veterans here who played TEC for years, I learned a lot about TEC from there (watercooling too). They criticized one of my TEC project back then but I still give it a try to see what they said is true and you know what, they are RIGHT. It failed

I've read about a few who had taken the plunge and bought themselves one of these TEC coolers for their quad processors, of course they found out that they don't perform any better than a high end heatsink. Some are satisfied with the performance since they don't overclock that much (then again, what's the point of spending so much money on a cooling system if they don't overclock much, right? )

I wouldn't be so negative about their TEC based cooling system if they actually price them RIGHT.

So yeah, there's a limit on how much these TEC coolers can actually dissipate, once the amount of heat goes beyond that, it fails miserably.

As for the ST watercooler, it's based on my own watercooling experience. Just ask Chai, he has far more watercooling experience than me.
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Old 14th Jun 2008, 06:56 AM   #13 (permalink)
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Can you point us to the exact thread and testing procedures ?

I can boost that I can take any Wolfdale down on the forum with an E6550 as that series is flawed. It doesn't report core temps properly even though it has an 8x multiplier ...
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Old 14th Jun 2008, 07:19 AM   #14 (permalink)
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CoolIt FreezeZone CPU Cooler, are you ready to buy? - Page 2 - XtremeSystems Forums

This is on a dual core allendale. Not good at all



The newer version (I forgot the name) might be able to cool down a heavily overclocked dual core though, but definitely not quad.

It's been discussed over and over again:
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This quote easily sums it all up:
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I have the Coolit freezone, it does fine for stock speeds, but could not handle my CPU when overclocked past say 3.3. Went with custom water setup and is MUCH better.
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Old 14th Jun 2008, 07:28 AM   #15 (permalink)
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ok...here is the TRUE at 4200 mhz and the Elite at 4200 mhz...elite runs 3c warmer...the only difference is that the TRUE is lapped (not a whole lot) and the Elite is not...probably the difference.

TRUE wins, not hands down but in a full load test.

as for 3660 mhz, i had moderate temps under 100% load, in the low 40's...i only had to use 1.2v for a vcore...that makes all the difference.

1st image is the TRUE.

2nd image is the Elite.
Let me remind you again, you are spending at least 4-5 times more than a TRUE!
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As I have said I will wait to do my own tests

Its like movies reviews are often off. Proper case flow can make all the difference in most cases.

I will hold off and see what happens thanks for your pessimistic inclusions
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LOL! Well you asked for the tests and stuff...

Anyway, you will get decent results with a dual core If you really want to see it fail, use a quad core/do some heavy overclocks and overvoltage.
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LOL! Well you asked for the tests and stuff...

Anyway, you will get decent results with a dual core If you really want to see it fail, use a quad core/do some heavy overclocks and overvoltage.
I will check it out Bro
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Just curious, which will you be testing? Freezone or Elite?
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TEC cooling isn't practical these days, with processors hitting 100W+ easily. I was one of the few people who said to Max TEC cooling the radiator will not work.

The temperature doesn't increase linearly when cooled with TEC. If the TEC can't handle the heat, gg.
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