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Chai · 25th Oct 2008, 12:05 AM

You mean I don't have to eject? No safely remove hardware icon? I remember Nforce4 has it.

I just updated to the latest 8.6. And the bug fixes included tons of BSODs! Gosh...

g0tanks · 25th Oct 2008, 01:15 AM

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Originally Posted by lee_what2004

too much email?
or vista's flaws, I guess?

I have used Outlook frequently and never got that much RAM usage. (Vista 64x)

ZuePhok · 25th Oct 2008, 01:21 AM

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Originally Posted by Chai

You mean I don't have to eject? No safely remove hardware icon? I remember Nforce4 has it.

I just updated to the latest 8.6. And the bug fixes included tons of BSODs! Gosh...

Nope. just plug it in live.
caching for hotplugged drive is disabled. there is no option for you to enable it in matrix stroage manager. so, you are free to do anything to the drive. plug unplug plug unplug.. .. x 100000

Chai · 25th Oct 2008, 07:55 AM

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Originally Posted by ZuePhok

Nope. just plug it in live.
caching for hotplugged drive is disabled. there is no option for you to enable it in matrix stroage manager. so, you are free to do anything to the drive. plug unplug plug unplug.. .. x 100000

My eSATA drive caching has to be disabled manually?

ZuePhok · 25th Oct 2008, 10:33 AM

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Originally Posted by Chai

My eSATA drive caching has to be disabled manually?

I'm not sure about esata, as im using a SATA rack + sata drive. though on the paper both should work the same.

basically, if u plug the drive when the system is live, MSM will disable and not allow caching. this is of course, my observation. instruction on intel webbie is simply just plug, I/O, and unplug if u want to.

btw, check this out Windows - Unsafe at any speed? - NYTimes.com

yet another sensationalised article. these days, the standard of tech journalism is so low, it's very sad. by just simply linking their articles to a couple of other sources, they can conclude that the world is gonna end anytime now. amazing.
it's affecting the development of IT products. blame de bloggers!!

Chai · 25th Oct 2008, 11:09 PM

My eSATA was detected as normal SATA drive and it still allows write cache. That's why I don't think it's safe for hot swap.

ZuePhok · 26th Oct 2008, 12:16 AM

then again, Im using v7.6, native SATA, on RAID mode. Also, my sata rack is connected to SATA port 4, not 0-3. FYI, there are 2 SATA controllers on ICH9/10, not one. the first provides 0-3 and second does 4-5. not sure if it has anythign to do with this but you can try.

Also, I know nothing bout v8.5 SMS, apart from, well a long list of known issues. Dun intend to upgrade soon, so am lazy to read its manual

maybe they've the operational quite a bit since v7.6.

Chai · 26th Oct 2008, 04:31 PM

My eSATA is connected to the last 2 ports. I don't mind using the old drivers. But 8.6 is the one that I found on Intel website. I'm using AHCI mode, not RAID.

Max_87 · 26th Oct 2008, 07:12 PM

I finally managed to reproduce the BSOD. It happens everytime I try to delete a particular folder (It's a Titan Quest save folder).

Back then all the crashes happened whenever the game is running, sometimes minimized and I was doing some other stuffs. I guess all the BSODs were related to that folder too. I was running 2x320GB RAID0, I already know one of them is making very sharp screeching noise and is probably dying sooner or later, so maybe it's related to this problem too. I had cloned the whole OS to my new 2x640GB RAID0 just in case

I managed to delete the files by going into safemode. No more BSOD so far.

Chai · 27th Oct 2008, 12:30 AM

It shouldn't crash the whole OS just because it can't delete a file...

25th Oct 2008, 12:05 AM	#31 (permalink)
Chai Administrator Join Date: 6 Oct 2002 Location: Maranello Posts: 28,127 Reputation: 4649 Rep Power: 82	You mean I don't have to eject? No safely remove hardware icon? I remember Nforce4 has it. I just updated to the latest 8.6. And the bug fixes included tons of BSODs! Gosh... __________________ Chai (Contributor & Forum Admin) http://www.techarp.com/

25th Oct 2008, 11:09 PM	#36 (permalink)
Chai Administrator Join Date: 6 Oct 2002 Location: Maranello Posts: 28,127 Reputation: 4649 Rep Power: 82	My eSATA was detected as normal SATA drive and it still allows write cache. That's why I don't think it's safe for hot swap. __________________ Chai (Contributor & Forum Admin) http://www.techarp.com/

26th Oct 2008, 12:16 AM	#37 (permalink)
ZuePhok Hold me back! I can't stop posting!!! Join Date: 16 Dec 2002 Location: Floating Island Of Mandango Posts: 8,810 Reputation: 3294 Rep Power: 48	then again, Im using v7.6, native SATA, on RAID mode. Also, my sata rack is connected to SATA port 4, not 0-3. FYI, there are 2 SATA controllers on ICH9/10, not one. the first provides 0-3 and second does 4-5. not sure if it has anythign to do with this but you can try. Also, I know nothing bout v8.5 SMS, apart from, well a long list of known issues. Dun intend to upgrade soon, so am lazy to read its manual maybe they've the operational quite a bit since v7.6. __________________ my motto: poison first, think later.

26th Oct 2008, 04:31 PM	#38 (permalink)
Chai Administrator Join Date: 6 Oct 2002 Location: Maranello Posts: 28,127 Reputation: 4649 Rep Power: 82	My eSATA is connected to the last 2 ports. I don't mind using the old drivers. But 8.6 is the one that I found on Intel website. I'm using AHCI mode, not RAID. __________________ Chai (Contributor & Forum Admin) http://www.techarp.com/

26th Oct 2008, 07:12 PM	#39 (permalink)
Max_87 h@x! Join Date: 11 Aug 2003 Location: the land of bandwidth cap Posts: 11,446 Reputation: 2090 Rep Power: 38	I finally managed to reproduce the BSOD. It happens everytime I try to delete a particular folder (It's a Titan Quest save folder). Back then all the crashes happened whenever the game is running, sometimes minimized and I was doing some other stuffs. I guess all the BSODs were related to that folder too. I was running 2x320GB RAID0, I already know one of them is making very sharp screeching noise and is probably dying sooner or later, so maybe it's related to this problem too. I had cloned the whole OS to my new 2x640GB RAID0 just in case I managed to delete the files by going into safemode. No more BSOD so far. __________________ Max_87 Tech ARP http://www.techarp.com Dell Studio 15 / P7350 / 3GB DDR2 / Radeon HD 3450 / 250GB 7200RPM / 15" @ 1920x1200 E8600 @ 4.4GHz 1.36v / Asus P5E3 Deluxe / 2x2GB DDR3 / Radeon X1800 / Barracuda 7200.9 120GB / 7200.10 320GB x2 / Caviar SE16 WD5000AAKS / WD6400AAKS x2 / Dell 2007FP x2 / Silverstone ST56F

27th Oct 2008, 12:30 AM	#40 (permalink)
Chai Administrator Join Date: 6 Oct 2002 Location: Maranello Posts: 28,127 Reputation: 4649 Rep Power: 82	It shouldn't crash the whole OS just because it can't delete a file... __________________ Chai (Contributor & Forum Admin) http://www.techarp.com/

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