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Old 16th Oct 2008, 01:15 PM   #1 (permalink)
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The Windows team is readying second service packs (SP2) for Vista — and for its server complement, Windows Server 2008 — and is aiming to deliver these SP2s before it releases Windows 7, according to my sources.

I’m hearing that Microsoft already has delivered a beta of at least Vista SP2 to select hardware and software partners, the same way that it has been providing a hand-chosen few with early builds of Windows 7. I noticed that Microsoft has put up a place holder Knowledge Base article on October 2 regarding the forthcoming SP2 betas. (I see a couple of other bloggers saw this, as well.)

I haven’t heard details from any testers regarding any of the features due in Vista SP2 or Windows Server 2008 SP2. But here are some tidbits of what I have heard from my sources:

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Microsoft’s goal is to deliver both SP2 releases before it delivers Windows 7 in order to lessen confusion among users as to whether to deploy Vista and Windows Server 2008 — or to wait for Windows 7 and Windows Server 2008 R2 (a k a Windows 7 Server). Currently, Microsoft is believed to be attempting to RTM Windows 7 in the second half of 2009. The Softies have said Windows Server 2008 R2 is on track for 2010.

Because Microsoft is trying to keep Windows client and server code in lock-step, Windows Server 2008 was built around the Vista SP1 codebase. That’s why the first standalone service pack for Server 2008 is being called SP2. As many customers still are reticent to deploy a new OS until the first standalone SP goes out, Microsoft also is pushing to get SP2 for server out there to convince these users to consider upgrading.

The biggest deliverable in SP2 for Windows Server 2008 will be the integration of the Hyper-V bits with the server OS.
(I’ve asked the Windows client and server teams for comment on their respective SP2 features/timing and will update this post if and when I hear back. Given how tough it was to get info out of Microsoft on Vista SP1, I am not holding my breath….)

Update: Here’s all the Vista team will say, courtesy of a spokesperson: “Microsoft is working on a second Windows Vista service pack (Windows Vista SP2) and will share more details in the coming months.”

Update No. 2: From the server team, via a spokesperson: “(T)he comment (above) serves for Windows Server as well; Microsoft is not commenting further on the timing/release plans for the WS08 SP2 at this time, but will share more details in the coming months.”

Microsoft is expected to release a public Beta 1 of Windows 7 in mid-December, according to internal schedule information from sources. I haven’t yet heard when Beta 1 of Windows Server 2008 R2 is due, but I would bet it will be in the next month or two, as well. If Microsoft really is hoping to get Vista SP2 and Win Server 2008 SP2 out first, that doesn’t give the Redmondans a whole lot of time to test and deliver its pair of SP2s.

Given the timing, I’m wondering whether Microsoft might decide to deliver any of the tweaks or features it is building into Windows 7 via Vista SP2. Are there any fixes or tweaks you are hoping Microsoft delivers as part of Vista/Win Server 2008 SP2?

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I still use XP and probably will continue to for some time.
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Using XP Pro at work, Vista Ultimate at home.

Didn't like Vista so much, but the ability to support more than 4GB is good.
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Steve Ballmer said it's ok to skip vista for windows 7, nothing much to do with me though...I'm a linux kaki.

Windows Vista is using kernel 6.0.6 while Windows 7 will be based on kernel 6.1, still not sure what will be included in kernel 6.1 as new features though.
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Vista's kewl, but its boot speed is like 20 seconds more than my XP Pro computer. I'm not sure why. lol
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Vista's kewl, but its boot speed is like 20 seconds more than my XP Pro computer. I'm not sure why. lol
but you miss out the point that for the rest of the week, or maybe a month, who knows, you don't have to shut it down. You simply let it sleeps.

Vista is not perfect. it has its own share of flaws. it's slow on machines with <2GB memory but it's also getting alot of undeserved bashing. eg. a writer once said vista's future is gloomy just because the demo machine didn't boot up!!!. Seriously, how dumb can people get? I would say a lot of sensationalized news.

Independent hal architecture, user space driver stack, revamped audio architecture, a more intelligent I/O system, and the list goes on. I hardly hear ppl appreciate these improvements.

the latest graphics features wouldn't be possible without the capability to "restart" the drivers. It can self-recover, when GPU OC attempts fail. Switchable graphics on Centrino2?
Without the independent hal design, it's simply not possible for me to have a fresh installation of vista, on a new system, up in 15mins. one image, regardless of the specification. Vista is not as bad as it seems actually.
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Vista failure (yes, I considered it as a failure) is largely due to the marketing, the delayed, the expectation, and its over protective.

The marketing:
let's not talk about it...

The delayed:
The earlier hardware underperform due to driver issue, some applications work on XP doesn't work on Vista (backward compatibility issue...come on, it's a new OS). this is caused by the fact that almost a decade of XP make people afraid of changes.

The expectation:
Longhorn, which later become vista, has some fancy features that are not included in vista, it's actually kinda disappointing for both the creator and user.

Over protective:
YKWIM.

Windows Vista is the Windows ME (I kinda like ME), which lead to the better Windows 7.
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