unable to use bluetooth headset with MP3 player - Page 2

namsilat · 13th Dec 2007, 04:53 AM

Just to be clear, when you suggested changing "converter", you mean try another 2.5-to-3.5 connector, correct? I will probably have to buy another one to see.

namsilat · 13th Dec 2007, 06:56 AM

I went back to the store and spoke to people there about this; they have some very interesting explanations on the situation. They first tested the connector I bought, and it didn't work, then they tried another one of the same type from their store, and it didn't work either. According to those folks, there's an issue with a headphone for cell phones (which usually has a 2.5 mm jack), and regular headphone for music (which usually has a 3.5 mm jack). If you look at the metal part of the head or jack, there are 2 black lines, which has something to do with mono and stereo sound. Apparently 2.5 mm heads sometimes have 3 lines, so it's a "2 in 3 chance" that the connector may work. The 2.5 mm head on my wireless bluetooth adapter has only 2 lines, so he thinks those 2 lines are not in match of the 2 lines on the connector.

As to why I could hear music sometimes by wiggling the connector, he indicated that since 1 of the 2 lines "match", then I could hear sound "sometimes" by wiggling it, but the connection is obviously faulty, because the lines don't perfectly "match".

I don't really know what he said was accurate or not, but does that make sense?

By the way, why doesn't anybody make a small compact wireless headset just to listen to music? Those headset would have a 3.5 mm jack, which fits perfectly to any microphone plug. The small compact wireless headsets all seem to be designed for cell phones, while wireless headsets for music all seem to be bulky.

Mac Daddy · 13th Dec 2007, 10:32 AM

Yep it makes perfect sense mono and stereo connectors are quite different and learned a lot in my near 28 years as a musician. If you have a stereo connector no matter what size your common is at the base of the plug and the left and right on the center and tip. Using a mono connector you still have the tip but the center and base are one piece. This shorts that channel to common and I think explains you prob

namsilat · 13th Dec 2007, 10:54 AM

From what I understood, the issue was more than just a mono vs stereo issue. There's also the issue of bluetooth wireless setup that only works with cell phones but not mp3 players.

So now I guess if anybody has any suggestion about something that may achieve the function I was initially looking for.

Adrian Wong · 13th Dec 2007, 12:11 PM

Well, if you can hear the music sometimes by wiggling the connector, I would say it is a physical connection issue, rather than a Bluetooth problem.

Mac Daddy · 13th Dec 2007, 08:19 PM

I agree and moving the connector or even pulling it out slightly will remove the short allowing audio.

This is from your link and shows the problem ...

This is what you need but I don't think you will find it at Radio Shack ..

Seidio Audio Adapter - 2.5mm Male Jack To 3.5mm Female Jack @ msmobiles.com store - Windows Mobile and Smartphone Accessories, Software + more

namsilat · 14th Dec 2007, 06:55 AM

There's an interesting device. I believe the 3 lines on the metal part of the jack is what the guy was talking about. However, I need a connector that's 2.5 mm FEMALE jack to 3.5 mm MALE jack, because I have a 2.5 mm male jack that needs to come out as a 3.5 mm male jack. I searched that web site and could not find this item.

namsilat · 14th Dec 2007, 06:58 AM

oppps my mistake, the item you posted is indeed what may work for the the setup. Thanks.

namsilat · 14th Dec 2007, 07:38 AM

By the way, this is the wireless headset and adapter in question.

Cardo Scala 500 Headset + 2.5mm Adapter (US) Larger Image - MobilePlanet

Mac Daddy · 14th Dec 2007, 10:22 AM

I was thinking you needed it the other way around too and couldn't find anything either ... then I looked at the pic in your link ... hope it works out for ya

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13th Dec 2007, 04:53 AM	#11 (permalink)
namsilat Newbie Join Date: 17 Oct 2007 Posts: 11 Reputation: 0 Rep Power: 0	Just to be clear, when you suggested changing "converter", you mean try another 2.5-to-3.5 connector, correct? I will probably have to buy another one to see.

13th Dec 2007, 06:56 AM	#12 (permalink)
namsilat Newbie Join Date: 17 Oct 2007 Posts: 11 Reputation: 0 Rep Power: 0	I went back to the store and spoke to people there about this; they have some very interesting explanations on the situation. They first tested the connector I bought, and it didn't work, then they tried another one of the same type from their store, and it didn't work either. According to those folks, there's an issue with a headphone for cell phones (which usually has a 2.5 mm jack), and regular headphone for music (which usually has a 3.5 mm jack). If you look at the metal part of the head or jack, there are 2 black lines, which has something to do with mono and stereo sound. Apparently 2.5 mm heads sometimes have 3 lines, so it's a "2 in 3 chance" that the connector may work. The 2.5 mm head on my wireless bluetooth adapter has only 2 lines, so he thinks those 2 lines are not in match of the 2 lines on the connector. As to why I could hear music sometimes by wiggling the connector, he indicated that since 1 of the 2 lines "match", then I could hear sound "sometimes" by wiggling it, but the connection is obviously faulty, because the lines don't perfectly "match". I don't really know what he said was accurate or not, but does that make sense? By the way, why doesn't anybody make a small compact wireless headset just to listen to music? Those headset would have a 3.5 mm jack, which fits perfectly to any microphone plug. The small compact wireless headsets all seem to be designed for cell phones, while wireless headsets for music all seem to be bulky.

13th Dec 2007, 10:32 AM	#13 (permalink)
Mac Daddy Pickin' Da Gitfiddle Join Date: 19 Nov 2007 Location: Canada Posts: 2,048 Reputation: 802 Rep Power: 11	Yep it makes perfect sense mono and stereo connectors are quite different and learned a lot in my near 28 years as a musician. If you have a stereo connector no matter what size your common is at the base of the plug and the left and right on the center and tip. Using a mono connector you still have the tip but the center and base are one piece. This shorts that channel to common and I think explains you prob

13th Dec 2007, 10:54 AM	#14 (permalink)
namsilat Newbie Join Date: 17 Oct 2007 Posts: 11 Reputation: 0 Rep Power: 0	From what I understood, the issue was more than just a mono vs stereo issue. There's also the issue of bluetooth wireless setup that only works with cell phones but not mp3 players. So now I guess if anybody has any suggestion about something that may achieve the function I was initially looking for.

13th Dec 2007, 08:19 PM	#16 (permalink)
Mac Daddy Pickin' Da Gitfiddle Join Date: 19 Nov 2007 Location: Canada Posts: 2,048 Reputation: 802 Rep Power: 11	I agree and moving the connector or even pulling it out slightly will remove the short allowing audio. This is from your link and shows the problem ... This is what you need but I don't think you will find it at Radio Shack .. Seidio Audio Adapter - 2.5mm Male Jack To 3.5mm Female Jack @ msmobiles.com store - Windows Mobile and Smartphone Accessories, Software + more

14th Dec 2007, 06:55 AM	#17 (permalink)
namsilat Newbie Join Date: 17 Oct 2007 Posts: 11 Reputation: 0 Rep Power: 0	There's an interesting device. I believe the 3 lines on the metal part of the jack is what the guy was talking about. However, I need a connector that's 2.5 mm FEMALE jack to 3.5 mm MALE jack, because I have a 2.5 mm male jack that needs to come out as a 3.5 mm male jack. I searched that web site and could not find this item.

14th Dec 2007, 06:58 AM	#18 (permalink)
namsilat Newbie Join Date: 17 Oct 2007 Posts: 11 Reputation: 0 Rep Power: 0	oppps my mistake, the item you posted is indeed what may work for the the setup. Thanks.

14th Dec 2007, 07:38 AM	#19 (permalink)
namsilat Newbie Join Date: 17 Oct 2007 Posts: 11 Reputation: 0 Rep Power: 0	By the way, this is the wireless headset and adapter in question. Cardo Scala 500 Headset + 2.5mm Adapter (US) Larger Image - MobilePlanet

14th Dec 2007, 10:22 AM	#20 (permalink)
Mac Daddy Pickin' Da Gitfiddle Join Date: 19 Nov 2007 Location: Canada Posts: 2,048 Reputation: 802 Rep Power: 11	I was thinking you needed it the other way around too and couldn't find anything either ... then I looked at the pic in your link ... hope it works out for ya