Recapping the motherboard....

The_YongGrand · 24th Aug 2005, 09:47 AM

Yeah, this is it. I've looked around in the Badcaps.com for advice regarding replacing the m/b's capacitors. And, also, visited their forums. So, I have a MSI-5184 m/b which is behaving erratically because of swollen capacitors.

Y'know how I test for swollen caps? I took a pen, place it horizontal 90 degrees on the cap. If it lies flat on top, this cap is good.

If it forms a tangent, (or cannot stand horizontally), then the top is curved and the cap is in bad condition.

My pa, repaired radios and televisions and VCRs before, wanted to try that. Today, he's going to an electronics shop and buy the new caps that are listed to be broken in my m/b.

Well, I pray that the thing is going to work. Or even work better.
I hope to give you the photos of broken caps on the m/b....

Have you replaced any capacitors on the board before? Just curious...

zy · 24th Aug 2005, 11:38 AM

i have swollen caps in this pc (intel P3)

so far no problems

actually i thought of replacing the caps but nvr did so.

Papercut · 24th Aug 2005, 11:43 AM

And may the Force be with you

The_YongGrand · 24th Aug 2005, 01:05 PM

Yeah, thanks, but first with a low-power soldering iron.

But fortunately, the board underneath, the soldered points for the caps are quite far away, and will not affect any nearby chips whatsoever. Well, I hope he really fixed that. If the whole MSI-5184 is back to normal, well, mission accomplished.

Well, pray for this board to work. If so, ha, that senior Socket 7 board will survive for another 5 - 10 years....

Edit: I'll borrow a digital camera real soon, to get the pics of the broken caps on the board....

The_YongGrand · 25th Aug 2005, 09:49 PM

Aha, on evening I did the recapping on the board. So far only 3 out of 9 replaced, and the system started out nice! But I haven't really tested yet.... i'll do it tomorrow...

I used a soldering iron (low-power) and a long needle (preferbly jangka lukis) and of course a very strong desoldering pump.

I put some solder on the point where the cap needed to be removed, then pump it out immediately. Then, do the same thing for the another terminal. Then, clear the hole by picking the hole using the needle. (I hope you understand... I'm not really sure how to explain this!)

The easiest is soldering back the new cap into the board. Wao, I don't know whether this system is stable right now, but I have to make the rig to undergo rigorous testing....

Adrian Wong · 25th Aug 2005, 10:35 PM

Hehe.. You should do a guide on this!

The_YongGrand · 26th Aug 2005, 05:02 PM

I think pictures are better in explaining all the soldering stuff,...

Before having my rig recapped, all the strange problems occurs during the installation of XP.

Well, today I tested my recapped rig. It did fine in installing WinXP and there's no problems. I can even start WinXp without glitches...

Now I'm testing it more thoroughly. I want to stuff some more cards and RAM into the PC to see how stable it is....

Anyway, the whole thing is nice to use anymore and now I want to put a USB card into it....

The hint: If your system is acting up (BSODs and system hangs) and you narrowed down most problems like RAM there but still no proper solution, then take a look at your m/b. If you see bulging caps, quickly get it recapped, if not, will cause tons of problems in future. Try looking at www.badcaps.com for more info...

Adrian Wong · 26th Aug 2005, 06:23 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by ngyonghan

I think pictures are better in explaining all the soldering stuff,...

We can start with that!

Elkdad · 26th Oct 2005, 03:03 PM

I was so disappointed to have scrolled all the way down and discovered no pictures. I was curious about how you determined the value of the replacement caps. Do you have a schematic, or did you make an educated guess?

Also, I can send you a picture of my solder sucker tool that I kept from a previous job. We also used a wick that had flux in it, but I think modern circuitry would be too small to use that safely.

The_YongGrand · 28th Oct 2005, 05:32 PM

Oooh, I'm really really sorry as I didn't have a camera for all the job yet.

Yes - you can do it with the normal basic soldering equipment, but you will need more time and another person to help you for all that.

And if you want to do it, get a low-powered soldering iron and the mechanical pump must be in a very good condition.

Also, get a already broken motherboard to practise. You know practice makes perfect, okay?

A better one will be vacumm pump which is very expensive, but surely, you can get more work done by using it.

24th Aug 2005, 09:47 AM	#1 (permalink)
The_YongGrand Super Active Join Date: 12 Feb 2005 Location: Somewhere in 甲洞... Posts: 2,316 Reputation: 852 Rep Power: 14	Recapping the motherboard.... Yeah, this is it. I've looked around in the Badcaps.com for advice regarding replacing the m/b's capacitors. And, also, visited their forums. So, I have a MSI-5184 m/b which is behaving erratically because of swollen capacitors. Y'know how I test for swollen caps? I took a pen, place it horizontal 90 degrees on the cap. If it lies flat on top, this cap is good. If it forms a tangent, (or cannot stand horizontally), then the top is curved and the cap is in bad condition. My pa, repaired radios and televisions and VCRs before, wanted to try that. Today, he's going to an electronics shop and buy the new caps that are listed to be broken in my m/b. Well, I pray that the thing is going to work. Or even work better. I hope to give you the photos of broken caps on the m/b.... Have you replaced any capacitors on the board before? Just curious...

24th Aug 2005, 11:38 AM	#2 (permalink)
zy Dead Join Date: 16 Dec 2002 Location: Penang,Malaysia - Buffalo,New York Posts: 12,842 Reputation: 1998 Rep Power: 37	i have swollen caps in this pc (intel P3) so far no problems actually i thought of replacing the caps but nvr did so. __________________ current: P4-3.2\|P4P800-Deluxe\|512x4-DDR\|NV6600 WD2500KS\|WD5000AAKS\|AD-7191A\|1860NX\|Z2300\|MP470 home (malaysia): P4C-2.6@3.1-StockHSF\|AI7\|256x2-BT-D43\|512x2-DT-D43\|A9600XT-VIVO WD1200JB\|2xWD2500KS\|DRU-800A\|DVD-E616P\|LTR-52327S\|152x\|V.S.4121\|iP1500 laptop: M1210\|T7200\|2GBDDR667\|160GB5K160\|GO7400

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Elkdad Just Started Join Date: 17 Jun 2005 Location: Connecticut Posts: 47 Reputation: 18 Rep Power: 0	I was so disappointed to have scrolled all the way down and discovered no pictures. I was curious about how you determined the value of the replacement caps. Do you have a schematic, or did you make an educated guess? Also, I can send you a picture of my solder sucker tool that I kept from a previous job. We also used a wick that had flux in it, but I think modern circuitry would be too small to use that safely. __________________ Asus A7V880 (3200+ @ 2.2 GHz), 2 GB Corsair, ATI Radeon 9800 Pro, Plextor PX-716A, Creative SB Audigy, Mitsumi 7in1 Floppy

24th Aug 2005, 01:05 PM	#4 (permalink)
The_YongGrand Super Active Join Date: 12 Feb 2005 Location: Somewhere in 甲洞... Posts: 2,316 Reputation: 852 Rep Power: 14	Yeah, thanks, but first with a low-power soldering iron. But fortunately, the board underneath, the soldered points for the caps are quite far away, and will not affect any nearby chips whatsoever. Well, I hope he really fixed that. If the whole MSI-5184 is back to normal, well, mission accomplished. Well, pray for this board to work. If so, ha, that senior Socket 7 board will survive for another 5 - 10 years.... Edit: I'll borrow a digital camera real soon, to get the pics of the broken caps on the board....

25th Aug 2005, 09:49 PM	#5 (permalink)
The_YongGrand Super Active Join Date: 12 Feb 2005 Location: Somewhere in 甲洞... Posts: 2,316 Reputation: 852 Rep Power: 14	Aha, on evening I did the recapping on the board. So far only 3 out of 9 replaced, and the system started out nice! But I haven't really tested yet.... i'll do it tomorrow... I used a soldering iron (low-power) and a long needle (preferbly jangka lukis) and of course a very strong desoldering pump. I put some solder on the point where the cap needed to be removed, then pump it out immediately. Then, do the same thing for the another terminal. Then, clear the hole by picking the hole using the needle. (I hope you understand... I'm not really sure how to explain this!) The easiest is soldering back the new cap into the board. Wao, I don't know whether this system is stable right now, but I have to make the rig to undergo rigorous testing....

26th Aug 2005, 05:02 PM	#7 (permalink)
The_YongGrand Super Active Join Date: 12 Feb 2005 Location: Somewhere in 甲洞... Posts: 2,316 Reputation: 852 Rep Power: 14	I think pictures are better in explaining all the soldering stuff,... Before having my rig recapped, all the strange problems occurs during the installation of XP. Well, today I tested my recapped rig. It did fine in installing WinXP and there's no problems. I can even start WinXp without glitches... Now I'm testing it more thoroughly. I want to stuff some more cards and RAM into the PC to see how stable it is.... Anyway, the whole thing is nice to use anymore and now I want to put a USB card into it.... The hint: If your system is acting up (BSODs and system hangs) and you narrowed down most problems like RAM there but still no proper solution, then take a look at your m/b. If you see bulging caps, quickly get it recapped, if not, will cause tons of problems in future. Try looking at www.badcaps.com for more info...

28th Oct 2005, 05:32 PM	#10 (permalink)
The_YongGrand Super Active Join Date: 12 Feb 2005 Location: Somewhere in 甲洞... Posts: 2,316 Reputation: 852 Rep Power: 14	Oooh, I'm really really sorry as I didn't have a camera for all the job yet. Yes - you can do it with the normal basic soldering equipment, but you will need more time and another person to help you for all that. And if you want to do it, get a low-powered soldering iron and the mechanical pump must be in a very good condition. Also, get a already broken motherboard to practise. You know practice makes perfect, okay? A better one will be vacumm pump which is very expensive, but surely, you can get more work done by using it.

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