OC with ATI or NV

Majormaggot · 11th Oct 2005, 06:49 AM

ok so im lookin at gettin a new video card(my budget is flexible right now) and want to know what the best card to get in agp, and which has the best OC potential. im was thinking for ati to with a x800xl or x850xt, or for NV to go with a 6800series or 6600 series??

any feedback would be great!

-Major

Papercut · 11th Oct 2005, 11:38 AM

X800XL doesn't overclock too well, AFAIK. 6600GT is quite ok but personally I don't think it's worthwhile upgrading from a 9800 Pro @ XT to a 6600GT, the improvement isn't going to be significant. So maybe a 6800/GT or X850

Chai · 11th Oct 2005, 09:08 PM

I would go for 6800 series for the SM3 support. But X850 isn't such a bad card as well.

Majormaggot · 11th Oct 2005, 10:57 PM

so which would be better in the long run??

goldfries · 12th Oct 2005, 02:28 AM

for a R9800 Pro / XT to 6600 GT is a waste of money IMO. save up a bit more and get some thing better if you really wish to upgrade.

check out benchies that involves R9800 / X700 / 6600GT.

Majormaggot · 12th Oct 2005, 08:02 AM

yeah if im going to upgrade imma go all out, so right now i guess its between the x850 and 6800gt, as chai noted, the 6800 has sm3, and the specs on the x850 says it runs faster. also does having a nvidia chipset board mean the 6800 will perform better(plz forgive the stupid questions, im rally a nub at this)??

-Major

Papercut · 12th Oct 2005, 12:50 PM

Difference between using an Nvidia or an ATI on an nForce board is negligible...if I were in your shoes I'd get the 6800GT (oh wait, I did

) for SM3.0
Anyway since you'll be overclocking, you can slap some nice cooling on the 6800GT and hopefully take it past Ultra speeds...

Mike · 12th Oct 2005, 04:42 PM

yup. since AGP is your only choice, then a 6800GT/Ultra or X800XT or X850XT is also a good choice.

here in aus the X800XT (PE if you're lucky enoughto find one) can be had cheaper than 6800GT and is fairly good performance for the money.

Farmer · 14th Oct 2005, 04:51 PM

I have just installed an X850XT PE AGP card, and it has been a great upgrade from a 9800Pro. I looked really close at the 6800Ultra, but it was more money, and took more power to run. But with the ATI card, as stated above, no SM3 support...

Later....

14th Oct 2005, 07:07 PM

If you're into tweaking and seeing you're upgrading from an AGP card: you're in an ok spot

. Just don't spend too much as PCI-Express is upon you...

But on the other hand it's perfect as AGP cards are cheaper than their PCI-Express variants nowadays so you should be able to find a good deal on either a
- ASUS V9999GE (a 6800NU core @ GT speeds @ an Ultra PCB - weird card

) (at least I could buy it for almost half the price

)
- ATi X800 GTO2 (not the GTO, but GTO2) *EDIT* my bad: PCI-Express only

Both cards are 12pixel pipeline configurations, but can be flashed to 16. After that, you can overclock them to either a Ultra (Deluxe) or a X800XT / X850XT(PE)
So...pretty fast

11th Oct 2005, 06:49 AM	#1 (permalink)
Majormaggot Getting there Join Date: 5 Sep 2005 Posts: 164 Reputation: 59 Rep Power: 4	OC with ATI or NV ok so im lookin at gettin a new video card(my budget is flexible right now) and want to know what the best card to get in agp, and which has the best OC potential. im was thinking for ati to with a x800xl or x850xt, or for NV to go with a 6800series or 6600 series?? any feedback would be great! -Major __________________ Intel Pentium Dual Core E2160 @ 3.1 GHz 1.475 Vcore, Asus P5W DH Deluxe, 2GB Corsair XMS twin X 2, enermax galaxy 850w, Sound blaster X-FI Xtream Music, XFX 8800GT 512 MB, 2x 400GB Seagate HDD in Raid 0, 1x 250 GB WD HDD, 1x 120 GB WD HDD, A mighty Zalman 9500 cooler crying for help. and ArcticSliver 5, DVD drives n shizzle.

11th Oct 2005, 11:38 AM	#2 (permalink)
Papercut Hyperactive Join Date: 14 Jul 2004 Location: Singapore! Posts: 4,990 Reputation: 2428 Rep Power: 33	X800XL doesn't overclock too well, AFAIK. 6600GT is quite ok but personally I don't think it's worthwhile upgrading from a 9800 Pro @ XT to a 6600GT, the improvement isn't going to be significant. So maybe a 6800/GT or X850 __________________ PC Specs "Use in a cool dry place away from direct sunlight. Keep out of reach of n00bs. Overclock within 24 hours of opening. Do not read instructions before proceeding, do not use only as directed. May cause frustration, late nights and empty wallets. If symptoms persist please consult your hardware professional."

11th Oct 2005, 09:08 PM	#3 (permalink)
Chai Administrator Join Date: 6 Oct 2002 Location: Maranello Posts: 26,757 Reputation: 3984 Rep Power: 72	I would go for 6800 series for the SM3 support. But X850 isn't such a bad card as well. __________________ Chai (Contributor & Forum Admin) http://www.techarp.com/

11th Oct 2005, 10:57 PM	#4 (permalink)
Majormaggot Getting there Join Date: 5 Sep 2005 Posts: 164 Reputation: 59 Rep Power: 4	so which would be better in the long run?? __________________ Intel Pentium Dual Core E2160 @ 3.1 GHz 1.475 Vcore, Asus P5W DH Deluxe, 2GB Corsair XMS twin X 2, enermax galaxy 850w, Sound blaster X-FI Xtream Music, XFX 8800GT 512 MB, 2x 400GB Seagate HDD in Raid 0, 1x 250 GB WD HDD, 1x 120 GB WD HDD, A mighty Zalman 9500 cooler crying for help. and ArcticSliver 5, DVD drives n shizzle.

12th Oct 2005, 02:28 AM	#5 (permalink)
goldfries More Than Meets The Eye Join Date: 22 Jan 2003 Location: KL/PJ Malaysia Posts: 7,869 Reputation: 539 Rep Power: 18	for a R9800 Pro / XT to 6600 GT is a waste of money IMO. save up a bit more and get some thing better if you really wish to upgrade. check out benchies that involves R9800 / X700 / 6600GT. __________________ no computer specs \| no photography gear list \| no userbars \| no quotes

12th Oct 2005, 08:02 AM	#6 (permalink)
Majormaggot Getting there Join Date: 5 Sep 2005 Posts: 164 Reputation: 59 Rep Power: 4	yeah if im going to upgrade imma go all out, so right now i guess its between the x850 and 6800gt, as chai noted, the 6800 has sm3, and the specs on the x850 says it runs faster. also does having a nvidia chipset board mean the 6800 will perform better(plz forgive the stupid questions, im rally a nub at this)?? -Major __________________ Intel Pentium Dual Core E2160 @ 3.1 GHz 1.475 Vcore, Asus P5W DH Deluxe, 2GB Corsair XMS twin X 2, enermax galaxy 850w, Sound blaster X-FI Xtream Music, XFX 8800GT 512 MB, 2x 400GB Seagate HDD in Raid 0, 1x 250 GB WD HDD, 1x 120 GB WD HDD, A mighty Zalman 9500 cooler crying for help. and ArcticSliver 5, DVD drives n shizzle.

12th Oct 2005, 12:50 PM	#7 (permalink)
Papercut Hyperactive Join Date: 14 Jul 2004 Location: Singapore! Posts: 4,990 Reputation: 2428 Rep Power: 33	Difference between using an Nvidia or an ATI on an nForce board is negligible...if I were in your shoes I'd get the 6800GT (oh wait, I did ) for SM3.0 Anyway since you'll be overclocking, you can slap some nice cooling on the 6800GT and hopefully take it past Ultra speeds... __________________ PC Specs "Use in a cool dry place away from direct sunlight. Keep out of reach of n00bs. Overclock within 24 hours of opening. Do not read instructions before proceeding, do not use only as directed. May cause frustration, late nights and empty wallets. If symptoms persist please consult your hardware professional."

12th Oct 2005, 04:42 PM	#8 (permalink)
Mike Active Join Date: 8 Jun 2003 Location: Melbourne, Australia Posts: 949 Reputation: 67 Rep Power: 6	yup. since AGP is your only choice, then a 6800GT/Ultra or X800XT or X850XT is also a good choice. here in aus the X800XT (PE if you're lucky enoughto find one) can be had cheaper than 6800GT and is fairly good performance for the money. __________________ Mike Z Watercooled Aria SFF \| D Rig \| Ghetto Fanless Desktop

14th Oct 2005, 04:51 PM	#9 (permalink)
Farmer Newbie Join Date: 28 Sep 2005 Posts: 1 Reputation: 0 Rep Power: 0	I have just installed an X850XT PE AGP card, and it has been a great upgrade from a 9800Pro. I looked really close at the 6800Ultra, but it was more money, and took more power to run. But with the ATI card, as stated above, no SM3 support... Later....

14th Oct 2005, 07:07 PM	#10 (permalink)
Sir Killalot Posts: n/a	If you're into tweaking and seeing you're upgrading from an AGP card: you're in an ok spot . Just don't spend too much as PCI-Express is upon you... But on the other hand it's perfect as AGP cards are cheaper than their PCI-Express variants nowadays so you should be able to find a good deal on either a - ASUS V9999GE (a 6800NU core @ GT speeds @ an Ultra PCB - weird card ) (at least I could buy it for almost half the price ) - ATi X800 GTO2 (not the GTO, but GTO2) EDIT my bad: PCI-Express only Both cards are 12pixel pipeline configurations, but can be flashed to 16. After that, you can overclock them to either a Ultra (Deluxe) or a X800XT / X850XT(PE) So...pretty fast Last edited by Sir Killalot : 15th Oct 2005 at 02:45 AM.