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Old 1st May 2006, 08:54 PM   #11 (permalink)
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Principle of Economics.

Yet, I don't see how that applies to the discussion...

Like I said, it won't hurt your hardware as long as you keep the voltage to reasonable limits (+0.3v from stock is a rule of thumb) and you keep your load temps down (i personally keep things below 60C) and it will last as long as it's still useful...
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Old 1st May 2006, 09:42 PM   #12 (permalink)
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Principle of Economics.

Yet, I don't see how that applies to the discussion...

Like I said, it won't hurt your hardware as long as you keep the voltage to reasonable limits (+0.3v from stock is a rule of thumb) and you keep your load temps down (i personally keep things below 60C) and it will last as long as it's still useful...
PsYkHoTiK is the example that supports the principle.. lol

ok, not much I can do with controlling temperature of notebook..
the temperature sensors doesn't work with NHC..
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Personally I think +0.3V is really pushing it
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Well I try not to approach that limit. But I will go close to get what I want (unless it outweighs it.)

Plus, the Economic problem applies to all, not just me. Nor does it have relevence to the titled thread.
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I think 15% increase formula is more valid.
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Well I try not to approach that limit. But I will go close to get what I want (unless it outweighs it.)

Plus, the Economic problem applies to all, not just me. Nor does it have relevence to the titled thread.
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If you OC using stock voltages then the lifespan would be reduced as much if you increased the voltage and OC. I OC as high as I can go at stick voltages. Good cooling helps to reduce the life span. Basically if you run a cpu at 1.4V 24/7 and nother at 1.7V 24/7, and 1.7V cpu will die first most likely.
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I think 15% increase formula is more valid.
Yea I guess it is. I think mine is just slightly over though... I keep it that way coz I push the ram as well. Mine does 2.6GHz on stock volts (24hour prime stable.)

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Meh, I've always wondered about this question too. I am happy with my 2.6C cuz it overclocked to 3.25Ghz 250FSB on stock voltage. With a slight increase of like 0.1V I can get 3.4Ghz stable but since I don't have anything above PC3200 RAM wise that's kinda pointless and hard to do. About the topic, my computer along 4 of my friends computers have been going strong for almost 3 years with overclocked systems and I see no problems as long as the OC'ing is done the right way and kept under control.
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I think it is bad logic that overclocking always decreases the lifetime of a CPU. According to the logic, if I run a CPU at 2 GHZ and then overclock it to 2.1 GHZ then the lifetime will be less. I instead disagree with that logic. I believe it works differently, and that there is a "threshold" at which the lifetime is decreased, otherwise it has no effect. The trick when overclocking is to be smart and to not go to an extreme, so you experience all the benefits of a faster system without decreasing the lifespan of your CPU.
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