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Mac Daddy · 16th Apr 2008, 06:39 AM

Well antifreeze I know well if ya don't use it in Canada ya take the bus to work in the winter lol

There are 2 ways to buy it pre-mixed and not pre-mixed. You have to mix it with water in your vehicle. So I would think it would be a purer substance and that the ions mentioned would be less in pure antifreeze ?

PsYkHoTiK · 16th Apr 2008, 07:31 AM

there is always some free ions. Even in distilled water. (it just has a very low content of it - but it is still there).

Only anti-freeze that I've seen really helps with corrosion is Pentosin G11 (BMW's antifreeze).

Metals also corrode (oxide) with water.

Good old article.

PC Water Coolant Chemistry - Part II

Chai · 16th Apr 2008, 09:22 AM

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Originally Posted by generalRage1982hrv

bro here is a better look of it

Hmm...looks very 2002 design to me.

Try copying something more recent.

Mac Daddy · 16th Apr 2008, 09:30 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Chai

Hmm...looks very 2002 design to me.

Try copying something more recent.

Link us to the 2002 design so we can compare

PsYkHoTiK · 16th Apr 2008, 09:34 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Chai

Hmm...looks very 2002 design to me.

Try copying something more recent.

Well to his credit, it is self designed. Not exactly something I would embark on myself (I would just dish out money and get an off the shelf one). I lack equipment and know-how. But I respect people who embark on it non-the less.

But it is fascinating non-the less.

Now rage, how hard would it be to add some turbulence on it? Increase surface area. Or make it wavy as it criss crosses? That could help no?

No, I don't pretend to know anything about fluid dynamics or anything.

Chai · 16th Apr 2008, 10:13 AM

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Originally Posted by PsYkHoTiK

Well to his credit, it is self designed. Not exactly something I would embark on myself (I would just dish out money and get an off the shelf one). I lack equipment and know-how. But I respect people who embark on it non-the less.

But it is fascinating non-the less.

Now rage, how hard would it be to add some turbulence on it? Increase surface area. Or make it wavy as it criss crosses? That could help no?

No, I don't pretend to know anything about fluid dynamics or anything.

Most of the waterblock designs are already tried and tested, hence, most of the designs are copied one way or another. I used to have some own designed waterblock back in those days, and I still have it with me.

Not as elegant as his design, but I have limited tools.

Max_87 · 16th Apr 2008, 10:13 AM

Yup, you will definitely need more surface area inside the waterblock especially if you are using it to cool the newer processors.

Chai · 16th Apr 2008, 10:22 AM

Try something with center inlet, and spiral outwards, that's a simple design you can do.

generalRage1982hrv · 17th Apr 2008, 01:02 AM

thx guys
well i am still using aluminum and i need to design it different than Cu
copper is easy to design because its themp flow is higher and when u design it u can use larger lines and smaller walls but with aluminum you need to design it different larger walls larg lines and rest of that stuff
so aluminum can transfer heat to water faster

Quote:

Originally Posted by Chai

Try something with center inlet, and spiral outwards, that's a simple design you can do.

cant do it that machine have died few days ago
it will be fixed in few months

generalRage1982hrv · 17th Apr 2008, 03:12 AM

MADE BY RAGE hahhahahahhaha

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PsYkHoTiK "Little" Devil Join Date: 8 Apr 2004 Location: On the "throne" Posts: 14,054 Reputation: 3858 Rep Power: 57	there is always some free ions. Even in distilled water. (it just has a very low content of it - but it is still there). Only anti-freeze that I've seen really helps with corrosion is Pentosin G11 (BMW's antifreeze). Metals also corrode (oxide) with water. Good old article. PC Water Coolant Chemistry - Part II __________________ Intel SLA9U @ 3.83GHz @ 1.4v : 2x2GB OCZ Platinum DDR2 1066 : Asus P5K Premium : WD Raptor X : G92 8800GTS 512mb stock : XFi Platinum : Silverstone OP650 : Silverstone TJ-07 : Vista Ultimate Edition : Dtek FuZion CPU : Swiftech MCW60 : DDC w Petra's Top : Swiftech MCR320QP w 3 Panaflo Ultra High Speed : Tygon R3603 1/2" ID 3/4" OD CPU-Z: SLA9U : FX-55 : DDR 600 : VX www.techarp.com Contributor/Forum Moderator rawrblog

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