Zouk Abuse...

[Adrian Wong]

Originally Posted by peaz

True, the story may not be 100% true. still, if the claim of a history of rudeness by Zouk bouncers, then things just gets a bit more interesting. I guess we won't know until more victims (if any) comes out and tell their tale.

One thing though, my colleagues are saying that why did she just went into the mens bathroom and that she was immediately wrong because of that. This I cannot understand, especially in this modern age. True, in normal cases, please do not do it but in the case of an emergency, are you telling me that I cannot enter the girls bathroom to save my love ones (of course with a warning that I'm coming in before I enter)? :confuse:

Wait, she's assuming that that was exactly what happened.

What if the blogger was not telling the truth at all?

[Adrian Wong]

Originally Posted by Chai

Yup, rushing into the men's room is already a mistake to begin with. She did another mistake by locking the door. Why would she want to lock the door in the first place? If I were her, I wouldn't even have time to think of locking the door worrying that someone is going to hit them.

Hmm.. Locking the door is the odd part. I wouldn't even have time to lock the door.

I mean, go right in and see what's going on. Why lock the door??

[Chai]

Unless of course they are having fun and doesn't want anyone to disturb them, which sounds a lot more logical to me.

[peaz]

Originally Posted by Dashken

One of the comment really hit me, she said James's liver is bad, etc... why did she let him drink any liquor at all? And 2 rounds somemore! And is a club a suitable place for a person in critical condition who might just call it a night out of the blur?

Well, many ppl still smoke when they know it's bad for them. Many ppl drink anywhere even when they know they have Hepatitis B and even liver conditions. it's normal for people to think that they are invincible despite their conditions. So, I think this is a non-issue becuase I doubt that there are so many saints around anyways these days.

[Leian]

Originally Posted by Adrian Wong

Wait, she's assuming that that was exactly what happened.

What if the blogger was not telling the truth at all?

Her account may be biased but the fact that she put up the blog and has been interviewed and everything (see newspaper articles) makes me inclined to think that she at least believes that she is telling the truth.

[Adrian Wong]

Originally Posted by Leian

Her account may be biased but the fact that she put up the blog and has been interviewed and everything (see newspaper articles) makes me inclined to think that she at least believes that she is telling the truth.

The thing is.. the newspaper articles seem to tell a different story. At least, that was one of the comments I read about the Chinese newspaper story.

In any case, believing you are telling the truth is not the same as telling the truth.

Sometimes, people just refuse to admit the truth, even when they know it.

[Adrian Wong]

Originally Posted by peaz

Well, many ppl still smoke when they know it's bad for them. Many ppl drink anywhere even when they know they have Hepatitis B and even liver conditions. it's normal for people to think that they are invincible despite their conditions. So, I think this is a non-issue becuase I doubt that there are so many saints around anyways these days.

That's true.. but I think that's the usual attitude of the sufferers, not their friends or relatives who care about them.

I mean, I've seen people with Hep. B who continue to drink like there's no tomorrow. I've also seen smokers suffering from breathing difficulties and yet continue to puff and puff like the big bad wolf.

But I have never seen their relatives or friends go, "Hey, you wanna go down some shooters with me?" or "Have a smoke on me!".

Seriously, I would expect my friends and relatives, especially my girlfriend to be my moral backstop, rather than the devil on my shoulder. Wouldn't you?

[Adrian Wong]

BTW, doesn't Zouk have closed circuit cameras? Maybe they have clips of the altercation?

Also, what about testimonies from their friends? If I remember correctly, they were there with friends.

About the photos of the bruises, hey, if you are not shy enough to post this online and ask people to sign your petition, don't be shy to show us some bruises.

I hate to play the devil's advocate but someone's gotta do it. It's easy to get swayed by something like that and start trashing Zouk. We have got to be fair to everyone and analyze all the facts before arriving at any conclusion.

TBH, until now, I have not seen any evidence. Only a single testimonial by the girl, which is probably biased in some degree. None from her boyfriend, none from her friends. No pictures, no medical report, nothing. Zilch. Nada. Elek.

[Dashken]

Originally Posted by peaz

Well, many ppl still smoke when they know it's bad for them. Many ppl drink anywhere even when they know they have Hepatitis B and even liver conditions. it's normal for people to think that they are invincible despite their conditions. So, I think this is a non-issue becuase I doubt that there are so many saints around anyways these days.

No-no, the thing is this girl is using 'my bf's condition is critical, liver darn bad, etc.' to start the whole story with... that's like create a space for you to sympathize before she starts the whole thing. Damn chun..

I know some sick people just don't care... if me I also don't care la, want to die already, happy while I still can.

[Leian]

Originally Posted by Adrian Wong

The thing is.. the newspaper articles seem to tell a different story. At least, that was one of the comments I read about the Chinese newspaper story.

In any case, believing you are telling the truth is not the same as telling the truth.

Sometimes, people just refuse to admit the truth, even when they know it.

Well, what's the premise? That she really had been making out and gotten caught? She already addressed that: they're already living together.

And if she were making out -- would she be throwing such a big fuss? Wouldn't she be laying really low?